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I've hit a brick wall and wonder if any one can suggest how to move forward?
John Mason Graham (aged 32 years) married Evelyn Stillings 24/08/1946 in Hull East Yorkshire.According to the certificate his father was William Graham a Confectioner/Baker.

John died5/04/1948 in Hull
I have details for Evelyn but she too is now dead so can tell me nothing.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Regards
Wendy
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Name: John M Graham
Death Age: 33
Birth Date: abt 1915
Registration Date: Apr 1948
[May 1948]
[Jun 1948]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 2a
Page: 180

is this evelyn
Name
Evelyn Stillings
Registration Date
Jan 1920
Registration Quarter
Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district
Sculcoates
Inferred County
Yorkshire East Riding
Mother's Maiden Name
Coultman
Volume Number
9d
Page number
537

for what it is worth a tree on ancestry has him born in sotland but no documentary support

Births Dec 1915 (>99%)
GRAHAM John M Allan S.Shields 10a 1431

If my Math is correct and ages at marriage/death are correct, then to make him 32 on his wedding day he would have to have been born 25.8.1913 to 24.8.1914

If he died aged 33 in Q2 1948 then he would have to have been born Q2 1914 to Q2 1915 (exact date dependant on date of death).

32 at wedding 25.8.13 to 24.8.14
33 at death Q2 - Apr/May/June 1914 to Q2 - April/May/June 1915

Overlap - Q2 or Q3 1914

No John M Graham births in England/Wales in that period

These are the England/Wales births 1913-1915.
Will leave, but by looking at the GRO site, none of the M initials are for Mason

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Mar 1913 (>99%)
Graham John McD McDonald Huddersfield 9a 534

Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
Graham John M Thorn Tynemouth 10b 453

Births Dec 1915 (>99%)
GRAHAM John M Allan S.Shields 10a 1431
GRAHAM John M H Hall Newcastle T. 10b 332

No, not the South Shields one:

GRAHAM, JOHN MELVIN mms ALLAN
GRO Reference: 1915 D Quarter in SOUTH SHIELDS Volume 10A Page 1431




Possibly born in Edinburgh?

GRAHAM
JOHN MASON
M
1914
685/6 700
Morningside

If that's him, you'd have to buy credits on ScotlandsPeople to view and/or print the image of the original certificate.
Buy minimum 30 credits for £7.50, and use 6 credits to view the image.

It would tell you his parent's names and occupations, and the date and place of their marriage, as well as his DOB.

These are the Scottish births in the 1913-15 period. You would need to register with Scotland's people website. The results below are free search, you would then need to buy credits to look at further details as shown on birth cert. £7.50 for 30 credits, need 6 to look at a record

GRAHAM
JOHN MURRAY
M
1913
606/ 49
Monkton and Prestwick

GRAHAM
JOHN MCCALL
M
1914
168/1 1575
St Nicholas

GRAHAM <<<<<<<<<<<< looks possible
JOHN MASON
M
1914
685/6 700
Morning side

GRAHAM
JOHN MCKNIGHT
M
1915
644/3 755
Calton (Glasgow)

GRAHAM
JOHN MCKNIGHT
M
1915
644/1 886
Bridgeton

GRAHAM
JOHN MCINTYRE
M
1915
457/B 67
Thornton

If the Edinburgh birth is correct, this is a possibility for his parents' marriage, though of course, the birth cert would tell you for sure:

GRAHAM
WILLIAM
MASON
ELIZABETH ALLAN
1909
685/2 83
St Andrew (Edinburgh)

Scotland census 1841-1901 are available as transcripts only on sites such as Ancestry and Find My Past. Originals are only available through Scotlands People site and 1911 census only available on there.

Possible births for Elizabeth Mason

MASON
ELIZABETH ALLAN
F
1890
685/1 1466
St George

MASON
ELIZABETH ALLAN
F
1892
697/ 18
Penicuik

This would give you an 18-21 year old on the 1911 census, need to look for one married to William a Baker

1901
Name: Elizabeth A Mason
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1892
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's name: Charles Mason
Mother's name: Jane Mg Mason
Gender: Female
Where born: Penicuik, edinburhsh
Registration Number: 697
Registration district: Penicuik
Civil Parish: Penicuik
County: Midlothian
Address: Ravensneuk Cottages
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 4
Line: 24
Roll: CSSCT1901_405
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Mason 45
Jane Mg Mason 47
James Mg Mason 22
Charles Mason 16
Annie J Mason 11
Elizabeth A Mason 9
John Mason 7

1911
in the 1911 England Census
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Name: Elizabeth Allan Mason
Age in 1911: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1892
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Painswick
Civil Parish: Warden
Search Photos: Search for 'Warden' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address: Fountain R S O
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Paper Mill Worker
Registration district: Hexham
Registration District Number: 561
Sub-registration district: Chollerton
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Piece: 30958
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Mason 54
Jane Mason 55
Annie Jane Mason 20
Elizabeth Allan Mason 19
John Mason 17
William Head Mason 8

or / maybe
1901
Name: Elizabeth A Mason
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Relationship: Daughter
Father's name: John Mason
Mother's name: Robina S Mason
Gender: Female
Where born: Edinburgh
Registration Number: 685/1
Registration district: St George --------------
Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Bernard
County: Midlothian
Address: Allan Street
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 55
Household schedule number: 1
Line: 5
Roll: CSSCT1901_365
Household Members:
Name Age
John Mason 39
Robina S Mason 41
John Mason 14
David S Mason 13
Elizabeth A Mason 10
Isbella B Mason 7
Charles Mason 5

Name: John Mason
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1871
Marriage Date: 15 Apr 1887
Marriage Place: St George Deshire Edinburgh
Age: 44
Document Year: 1915
Residence Place: 97 St Stephens St, Edinburgh
Regimental Number: 448
Regiment Name: Duke of Cambridge's Own (Middlesex) Regiment
Form Title: Short Service Attestation
Number of Images: 6
Other Records: Search for 'John Mason' in other WWI collections
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
John Mason Self (Head)
Robins Smith Spouse
John Broomfield Jack Mason Child

Presuming they are in Midlothian

By manipulating the SP site I can see 2 William and Elizabeth's together in 1911 going by the reference number, but you'll need credits to look for details.

GRAHAM
WILLIAM
1911
M
23
685/2 65/ 4
St Andrew
Midlothian

Also an Elizabeth A aged 20 on same reference number


AND
GRAHAM
WILLIAM
1911
M
23
685/6 50/ 6
Morning side
Midlothian

With a 21 year old Elizabeth G (just incase initial transcribed wrongly)

there is this one on 1939 register

Name: John M Graham
Gender: Male
Marital status: Single
Birth Date: 1 Nov 1914
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 332
Residence Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Occupation: A R P Worker
Schedule Number: 283
Sub Schedule Number: 4
Enumeration District: KIKO
Registration district: Sheffield 105/3.
Household Members:
Name
George W Price
Nellie Price
Sheila Price
John M Graham
Minnie Graham b1921

edit - possible not as there is a Minnie Graham b 1921 Sheffield mmn Hopkin

There is a tree on Ancestry which names him as John M nicknamed Jock

Sounds like the Edinburgh one, then!