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John Henry JONES b 22 Nov 1859 Hampstead, Middx

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Rebecca

Rebecca Report 11 Sep 2019 08:50

Thanks ArgyllGran.

Have tried the RCMP link, however not finding any information on John Henry JONES.

I will perhaps investigate those deaths, even if if is just to exclude them.

Thanks again.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Sep 2019 18:58

if he didn't go to Canada, these deaths would fit:

Deaths Jun 1913 (>99%)
Jones John H 54 Lambeth 1d 298

Deaths Dec 1934 (>99%)
Jones John H 75 Lambeth 1d 194

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Sep 2019 18:43

Try here:
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/genealogy-and-archival-research

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 10 Sep 2019 18:37

There's also the story that he joined the Canadian Mounties when he went to Canada. Anyone any idea how to trace records for people who served in the Mounties from approx. 1901 to 1939?

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 10 Sep 2019 18:19

Hi ArgyllGran - that's my tree with the photo on Ancestry.co.uk.
And that is a photo of him via a member of the family.
I just found that emigration of a John H Jones, blacksmith and thought it might be him???? Did the image of that passenger list say he was from Lancashire??? If that's so, then this can't be him.... Just checked, you are right, image definitely states LANCS. I missed that. This can't be him. I will remove it from my tree.

And yes, that's the 1901 census info I found previously too. Birth date given as 1862 instead of 1859 (I hold his birth cert so I know it should be 1859).

If it's not him emigrating to Canada in 1902 as a blacksmith, then yes that might be him in 1911 at the Salvation Army Hotel as a horsekeeper. Looks like this might be him in 1911 as the 1902 emigration was not him as he's not from LANCS. So many John JONES' - tough to trace him for sure!

Family insists he went to Canada. My great aunt remembers that her mother told her an advert was placed in a UK newspaper looking for family after he died (perhaps for inheritance purposes?). She thinks he died before WW2.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Sep 2019 17:59

There's a tree on Ancestry with a nice photo of him on horseback, in uniform.

The tree owner thinks that this might be him going to Canada - a blacksmith -

John H Jones
in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: John H Jones
Gender: Male
Arrival Age: 43
Birth Year: abt 1859
Departure Port: Liverpool, England
Arrival Date: 11 Jun 1902
Arrival Port: Quebec and Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Vessel: Ionian


However, the image says this man was from Lancashire.


But there are so many records of men called John Jones born roughly 1859-ish, going to Canada!

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Sep 2019 17:52

For our reference:

John Henry Jones
in the 1901 England Census
Name: John Henry Jones
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1862 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Relation to Head: Soldier
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Chelsea, Middlesex, England <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Civil Parish: Heston
Ecclesiastical parish: Hounslow Heath St Paul
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Isleworth
ED, institution, or vessel: The Barracks Hounslow
Neighbors:
Piece: 1186
Folio: 58
Page Number: 2
Household schedule number: 1

Occupation: Private, cavalry

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 10 Sep 2019 17:48

John Jones is such a common name!

??? Just a suggestion:

John Jones
in the 1911 England Census
Name: John Jones
Age in 1911: 52
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Gender: Male
Birth Place: LONDON, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: City of London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: Salvation Army Working Mens Hotel and Shelter, Middlesex Street, E C
Marital status: Single
Occupation: HORSE KEEPER
Registration district: London City
Registration District Number: 15
Sub-registration district: St Botolph
ED, institution, or vessel: 17-19
Piece: 1290

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 10 Sep 2019 17:42

Correct Greyghost.

Thanks ErikaH - I'll take a look at Family Search.

greyghost

greyghost Report 10 Sep 2019 17:23

For our info - John in 1881. Said to be born Marylebone, Middx and listed as Private 3rd Middlesex Militia (google - also known as the Westminster Militia)

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Eleventh Hussars Hounslow Barracks, Heston, Brentford, Middlesex, England

First name(s) John
Last name Jones
Relationship Private
Marital status Single
Sex Male
Age 23
Birth year 1858
Birth town Marylebone
Birth town as transcribed MARYLEBONE
Birth county Middlesex
Birth county as transcribed MIDDLESEX
Birth place England
Occupation Private 3 Rl Midx Mil
House name Eleventh Hussars Hounslow Barracks
Street -
Town -
Parish Heston
County Middlesex
Country England
Registration district Brentford
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 1340
Folio 126
Page 40
Record set 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 10 Sep 2019 17:13

Try looking at the family search website

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 10 Sep 2019 16:21

I'm looking for a death registration for John Henry JONES (jr) born 22 Nov 1859 Hampstead, Middlesex, England. It is most probable that he emigrated to Canada at some point after 1901 and that he died there. He may have joined the Canadian Mounties.

Parents:
John Henry JONES c1837 Kerry, Montgomershire, Wales d1900 Kensington, London
Annie MILES c1835 Piddinghoe, Sussex, England d1897 Paddington, London

John Henry JONES (jr) b1859 was a Royal Hussar. I have the following census information:

1861 - 19 College Street North, St. Pancras, London
1871 - Grocers Shop, East Dean, Sussex (scholar living with uncle William MILES)
1881 - 11th Husaars Hounslow Barracks, Heston, Middx (single, private in Royal Middx Militia)
1891 - No sign of him - is anyone able to trace a census record for him in 1891?
1901 - Hounslow Barracks, Heston, Middx (single, private in cavalry)

No sign of him after the 1901 census. Family stories inform that he went to Canada.

Any information on his death or place of abode in Canada are most welcome. Did he perhaps marry after 1901?

Many thanks,
Rebecca