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Mary

Mary Report 24 Sep 2019 19:23

If Joseph died in Bradford in 1862 age 64 then his age is quite a bit out if he was born @ 1789.

??1841 woodhouse area of West leeds (same area as 1851)
Joseph Rushworth 50 a cloth dresser
Geos Rushworth 30 a cloth dresser

Jonathan and Elizabeth had son William S qtr 1862 V09b p419

Maryb.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Sep 2019 18:10

Unfortunately, the William Rushforth, son of John and Elizabeth, whose 1863 baptism was posted by ErikaH, isn't the son of Jonathan and Elizabeth in the 1861 census.

Jonathan is a cloth dresser in 1861.

William's baptism document says his father John was a miner, and the address was Mabgate, Leeds.

So this is William and parents in 1871:

William M Rushforth
in the 1871 England Census
Name: William M Rushforth
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: 1862
Relation: Son
Gender: Male
Where born: Leeds Yorkshire England
Civil Parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: North Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 42
Household schedule number: 26
Piece: 4554
Folio: 172
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
John M Rushforth 38 - coal miner
Elizabeth M Rushforth 30
William M Rushforth 9
Charles Hy M Rushforth 6
James N M Rushforth 4
John M Rushforth 4/12

Address: 2 Mabgate Fold.


Parents' marriage:
Marriages Mar 1857 (>99%)
Rushforth John Moore Leeds 9b 339
Wrigglesworth Elizabeth Leeds 9b 339

RUSHFORTH, WILLIAM mms WRIGGLESWORTH
GRO Reference: 1861 S Quarter in LEEDS Volume 09B Page 341


I know the DOB given on the baptism record doesn't fit with that registration.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Sep 2019 14:34

Fingers crossed!

Jane

Jane Report 24 Sep 2019 14:14

I have just ordered the death cert for Joseph rushworth so lets see if that helps me.

Jane

Jane Report 24 Sep 2019 12:35

H could be. As you say it is really confusing with them having similar names. Those census for Jonathan are correct. I suppose the only thing left if for me to buy Josephs death cert and see if he is mentioned on that.

Thanks for helping me ErikaH

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Sep 2019 12:16

Could Jonathan be Leah's son with her first husband?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Sep 2019 12:15

1861

Name: Jonathan Rushforth
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Elizabeth Rushforth
Gender: Male
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: West Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 132
Piece: 3389
Folio: 36
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
Jonathan Rushforth 36
Elizabeth Rushforth 32


???????????

Name: William Rushforth
Age: 2
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 15 Nov 1861
Baptism Date: 25 Dec 1863
Baptism Place: Leeds, St Peter, Yorkshire, England
Father: John Rushforth
Mother: Elizabeth Rushforth

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Sep 2019 12:05

Is this Jonathan in 1841?

Jonathan Rushworth
Event Type:
Census
Event Date: 1841
Event Place: Leeds, Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom
Residence Note:
York Street
Gender: Male
Age: 15
Birth Year (Estimated):
1822-1826
Birthplace:
Yorkshire
Registration District:
Leeds
Parish:
Leeds
County:
Yorkshire,Yorkshire West Riding
Page Number:
14
Registration Number:
HO107
Piece/Folio:
1346/11
Affiliate Record Type:
Household
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Joseph Rushworth Male 20 Yorkshire
Martha Rushworth Female 25 Yorkshire
Jonathan Rushworth Male 15 Yorkshire

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Sep 2019 12:00

BUT.............

Joseph's surname is clearly RushWorth - Leah's first husband was RushForth

1861 census has them as RushForth - confusing, to say the least

In 1861, Jonathan is also recorded as RushForth

Perhaps he was Leah's son by her first husband??????

Jane

Jane Report 24 Sep 2019 11:38

Hi ErikaH

Yes I am pretty sure about the marriage. It would be Josephs second marriage aswell.

The problem I have is that I have a Jonathan Rushworth born c1826 in Leeds. He married a Elizabeth Faubert in 1850 Leeds. The certificate said his dad was called Joseph a cloth dresser. Because of Jonathan's date of birth I can't get a birth certificate to find out his mums name. Joseph was a witness on his marriage cert. so was he Jonathan's dad.

On the 1841 I have Jonathan living with a Joseph and a Martha.
1841 England Census - York street
about Jonathan Rushworth
Name: Jonathan Rushworth
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Leeds Town
Hundred: Leeds Borough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: Leeds North
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Rushworth 20
Martha Rushworth 25
Jonathan Rushworth 15

I had thought they were brothers and sister. and there parents were Joseph Rusworth and Ann Holmes. But I have my doubts. Jonathan may not be related to them.

On the 1851 Joseph and Leah are living at West End Place and he is a cloth dresser.

On 1861 Joseph and leah are living next door to Jonathan in west end Place.

Leah died i 1862 aged 83 and Joseph died in 1863 aged 64 in Bradford.

Leah would not be Jonathan's Mum so Joseph would have married before, but who to.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Sep 2019 11:18

Are you certain about the 1833 marriage?


Name: Leah Rushforth (widow)
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 29 Jul 1833
Marriage Place: Leeds, York, England
Spouse: Joseph Rushworth************
FHL Film Number: 918389
Reference ID: 822

Jane

Jane Report 24 Sep 2019 10:52

Leah and Joseph married on 29/07/1833 in Leeds Please can you see if you can find them on the 1841. I have tried on familysearch but can't find them. thanks

Jane

Jane

Jane Report 24 Sep 2019 10:39

Thank you for your help EriKaH

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Sep 2019 10:30

Definitely LEAH

I have notified FMP of their error

It is correctly transcribed on Ancestry site.

Jane

Jane Report 24 Sep 2019 09:56

Please can someone have a look at the original 1861 census for this family. Is it possible that Sarah is actually Leah.

Name:
Joseph Rushforth
County:
Yorkshire (West Riding)
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
1861
Event Place:
Leeds, Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom
Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Marks
Registration District:
Leeds
Residence Note:
West End Place
Gender:
Male
Age:
72
Marital Status:
Married
Occupation:
Cloth Dresser
Relationship to Head of Household:
Head
Birth Year (Estimated):
1789
Birthplace:
Leeds, Yorkshire
Page Number:
28
Registration Number:
RG09
Piece/Folio:
3389 / 36
Affiliate Record Type:
Household
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Joseph Rushforth Head Male 72 Leeds, Yorkshire
Sarah Rushforth Wife Female 82 Leeds, Yorkshire

This is them on the 1851

Name:
Joseph Rushworth
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
1851
Event Place:
, Yorkshire,Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Registration District:
Leeds
Residence Note:
West End Place
Gender:
Male
Age:
64
Marital Status:
Married
Occupation:
Cloth Dresser
Relationship to Head of Household:
Head
Birth Year (Estimated):
1787
Birthplace:
Leeds, Yorkshire
Page Number:
8
Registration Number:
HO107
Piece/Folio:
2321 / 406
Affiliate Record Type:
Household
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Joseph Rushworth Head Male 64 Leeds, Yorkshire
Leah Rushworth Wife Female 72 Leeds, Yorkshire


Thanks

Jane