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Richard Clay born 1873 Prees Shropshire

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Angela

Angela Report 7 Nov 2019 20:25

Looking for any information on my great grandfather Richard Clay married Harriet Matilda Anna Penk 1897.
Many thanks Angela

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Nov 2019 22:11

Marriages Jun 1897 (>99%)
Clay Richard Whitchurch, S. 6a 1491
Penk Harriet Matilda A Whitchurch, S. 6a 1491

marriage cert. will give you his father's name and occupation. Also witnesses may be relatives.

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Nov 2019 22:13

1901

Name: Richard Clay
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Matilda Clay
Birth Place: Prees, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Whitchurch
Search Photos: Search for 'Whitchurch' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: St Alkmond
Town: Whitchurch
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street address:
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Registration district: Whitchurch (Shropshire)
Sub-registration district: Whitchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 04
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2555
Folio: 71
Page Number: 13
Household schedule number: 72
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Clay 28
Matilda Clay 25 - 1876 Birth Place: Whitchurch, Shropshire
Frank Clay 2
Arthur Evans 33
Elizabeth Evans 27
Arthur Evans 4
Doris Evans 2
Jashua Huxley 31

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Nov 2019 22:14

looks like she married again

Name: Harriet M A Clay
Registration Year: 1911
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Whitchurch
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 1587
Records on Page:
Name
Harriet M A Clay
William Prodger

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Name: Harriett M A Prodger
Death Age: 45
Birth Date: abt 1876
Registration Date: Jul 1921
[Aug 1921]
[Sep 1921]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Kings Norton
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 73

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Nov 2019 22:16

His death

Deaths Jun 1906 (>99%)
Clay Richard 34 Whitchurch S 6a 463

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Nov 2019 22:18

This could be him in 1891

Name: Richard Clay
Gender: Male
Age: 19
Relationship: Servant
Birth Year: 1872
Birth Place: Prees, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Marbury
Residence Place: Marbury, Marbury, Cheshire, England
Sub registration district: Whitchurch
ED, Institution or Vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2125
Folio: 168
Household Members:
Name Age
James Dodd 30
Frances Dodd 33
William Dodd 7
George Dodd 5
Berthe Dodd 8/12
Annie Whitfield 19
Lizzie Wright 13
James Ward 24
Richard Clay 19 - Farm Servant

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Nov 2019 22:19

1881 ??

Name: Richard Clay
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: William Clay
Mother: Ann Clay
Gender: Male
Where born: Prees, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Prees
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Wem
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2669
Folio: 48
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
William Clay 62 - Woodman born: Clive, Shropshire 1819
Ann Clay 54 - born: Woodhouses, Shropshire 1827
Richard Clay 10
William Clay 9


Marriage cert. should confirm this with father's name.

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Nov 2019 22:22

1871

Name: Richard Clay
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: 1870
Relation: Son
Gender: Male
Where born: Prees Shropshire England
Civil Parish: Prees
Town: Wem
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wem
Sub-registration district: Prees
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 30
Piece: 2795
Folio: 51
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
William Clay 51
Ann Clay 45
Eliza Clay 13
Henry Clay 9
Charlotte Clay 7
Ada Clay 4
Richard Clay 1

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Nov 2019 22:27

1861 ?

Name: William Clay
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: 1819
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann Clay
Gender: Male
Where born: St Mary, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Prees
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Wem
Sub-registration district: Prees
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 20
Piece: 1888
Folio: 50
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
William Clay 42
Ann Clay 35
Anna Clay 13
William Clay 9
Mary Clay 7
Eliza Clay 4
Richard Clay 2

....................................

Name: Richard Clay
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Registration Year: 1866
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 6
Registration district: Wem
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 572

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Nov 2019 22:30

1851

Name: William Clay
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1800
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann Clay
Gender: Male
Where born: St Mary, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Prees
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Wem
Sub-registration district: Wem
ED, institution, or vessel: 2d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 6
Piece: 1995
Folio: 341
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
William Clay 51
Ann Clay 26
Hannah Clay 3
Mary Clay 1
Richard Austin 21 - Brother in Law

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Name: William Clay
Registration Year: 1846
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Wem
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume: 18
Page: 304
Records on Page:
Name

Ann Austin
William Clay
.............................

Name: William Clay
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 28 Dec 1846
Marriage Place: Whitchurch,Shropshire,England
Spouse: Ann Austin
FHL Film Number: 501818, 503826, 503827, 510683, 510684

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baptism for Richard

Name: Richard Austin
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 29 Dec 1830
Baptism Place: Whitchurch,Shropshire,England
Father: Joseph Austin
Mother: Letitia
FHL Film Number: 501818, 503826, 503827

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Nov 2019 22:36

1841 (Austin family)

Name: Richard Hosten
[Richard Austin]
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Gender: Male
Where born: Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Whitchurch
Hundred: North Bradford (Whitchurch Division)
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
View image
Registration district: Wem
Sub-registration district: Wem
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 903
Book: 5
Folio: 3
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Hosten 35
Lethsha Hosten 35
Richard Hosten 10
Elizabeth Hosten 19
Catherine Hosten 5
Joseph Hosten 3
Mary Hosten 3
Hannah Hosten 3 Mo

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Nov 2019 22:52

CLAY, FRANCIS HAYWARD PENK
GRO Reference: 1899 S Quarter in WHITCHURCH Volume 06A Page 729

CLAY, RICHARD PENK
GRO Reference: 1897 D Quarter in WHITCHURCH Volume 06A Page 664

CLAY, KATHLEEN LOUISA PENK
GRO Reference: 1902 J Quarter in WHITCHURCH Volume 06A Page 740

CLAY, RENE PENK
GRO Reference: 1903 D Quarter in WHITCHURCH Volume 06A Page 703

CLAY, WILLIAM PENK
GRO Reference: 1905 D Quarter in WHITCHURCH Volume 06A Page 686

Catherine

Catherine Report 7 Nov 2019 22:55

1911
Name: Matilda Clay
Age in 1911: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Whitchurch, Shoprshire
Civil Parish: Whitchurch Urban
Search Photos: Search for 'Whitchurch Urban' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street address: 10 Liverpool Rd, Whitchurch, Salop

Marital status: Widowed
Occupation: Midwife

Registration district: Whitchurch
Registration District Number: 353
Sub-registration district: Whitchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 301
Piece: 16229
Household Members:
Name Age
Matilda Clay 34
Kathleen Clay 9
Rene Clay 7
Gertrude Barlour 22
Alfred Barlour 0

5 children:- 2 living and 3 died
..................................

Deaths Dec 1897 (>99%)
Clay Richard 0 Whitchurch, S. 6a 448

Deaths Sep 1903 (>99%)
Clay Francis Hayward 4 Whitchurch, S. 6a 405

Deaths Dec 1906 (>99%)
Clay William 1 Whitchurch S 6a 472

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 8 Nov 2019 07:19

Below can be useful Shropshire (no Deaths though)

http://www.shropshirebmd.info/index.php

Chris :)

23 June 1906 - Wellington Journal - Wellington, Shropshire, England

Death
CLAY - 13th Inst., aged 34, at 10, Liverpool Road, Whitchurch. Richard Clay.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 8 Nov 2019 09:58

Duplicate thread - also with replies :

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1380326

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Nov 2019 14:13

Possible info on Rene:-

Name: Renee Clay
Registration Date: Oct 1925
[Nov 1925]
[Dec 1925]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Hampstead
Inferred County: London
Spouse: Frederick S Gomm
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 1506
..................................

Name: Renee Gomm
Death Age: 80
Birth Date: 7 Nov 1903
Registration Date: Jul 1984
Registration district: St Albans
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 10
Page: 545
......................................

1939
Name: Renie Gomm
Gender: Female
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 7 Nov 1903
Residence Year: 1939
Residence Place: Hampstead, London, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Schedule Number: 106
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: AKAF
Registration district: 8/1 237
Inferred Spouse: Frederick S Gomm
Household Members:
Name
Frederick S Gomm :- 17 Aug 1899
Renie Gomm
One record closed
...................................

Births Sep 1927 (>99%)
Gomm Pamela D Clay Brentford 3a 150
.........
Marriages Mar 1950 (>99%)
Gomm Pamela D Hine Wood Green 5f 1206
Hine Thomas H Gomm Wood Green 5f 1206
.............

Births Sep 1934 (>99%)
Gomm John F Clay Hampstead 1a 700
maybe?
Marriages Dec 1958 (>99%)

GOMM John F RALPH Hampstead 5c 1608
RALPH Sadie P GOMM Hampstead 5c 1608
......................

Name: Frederick Stephen Gomm
Death Age: 70
Birth Date: 17 Aug 1899
Registration Date: Oct 1969
[Nov 1969]
[Dec 1969]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Hendon
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5c
Page: 813

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 Nov 2019 14:21

Seems he was born earlier than thought

CLAY, RICHARD AUSTIN
GRO Reference: 1869 D Quarter in WEM Volume 06A Page 725


Sister Ada

CLAY, ADA AUSTIN
GRO Reference: 1866 S Quarter in WEM Volume 06A Page 679

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Nov 2019 14:39

On your other thread you say that your father was born :- place birth Lonsdale cottage Higher Heath Whitchurch. In 1911 census there is a Cottage hospital with the address, Higher Heath, Whitchurch so maybe Lonsdale Cottage was a cottage hospital?

mgnv

mgnv Report 9 Nov 2019 05:08


Using https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd

Shropshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1897
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CLAY Richard PENK Harriet M A Whitchurch Register Office or Registrar Attended, North Shropshire Shrewsbury RO-WH/4/76

Shropshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1911
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CLAY Harriet M A PRODGER William Whitchurch Register Office or Registrar Attended, North Shropshire Shrewsbury RO-WH/5/174

Shropshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1846
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CLAY William AUSTIN Ann Whitchurch, North Shropshire Shrewsbury C-NS31/1/345

Shropshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1869
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
PENK James BENNION Elizabeth Whitchurch, North Shropshire Shrewsbury C-NS31/2/444

Shropshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1873
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
PENK Benjamin POWELL Harriett Whixall, North Shropshire Shrewsbury C-NS32/1/133

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
PENK, HARRIET MATILDA ANNIE NEWBROOK
GRO Reference: 1876 J Quarter in WHITCHURCH Volume 06A Page 805

CLAY, RICHARD AUSTIN
GRO Reference: 1869 D Quarter in WEM Volume 06A Page 725


1881 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27V-MG61
Event Place: Whitchurch, Shropshire, England
Registration District: Whitchurch
Residence Note: Watergate St
Registration Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 2670/50 Page Number: 6
Benjamin Penk Head Male 37 Whitchurch, Shropshire, England Tailor & Grocer
Harriet Penk Wife Female 39 Whixall, Shropshire, England
James Hayward Step Son Male 19 Whixall, Shropshire, England Tailor
Amelia Hayward Step Daughter Female 17 Whixall, Shropshire, England Grocers Assist
William Powell Step Son Male 13 Wem, Shropshire, England Scholar
Elizabeth Penk Daughter Female 7 Whixall, Shropshire, England Scholar
Harriet M A Penk Daughter Female 5 Whitchurch, Shropshire, England Scholar
Benjamin Penk Son Male 3 Whitchurch, Shropshire, England

Shropshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1873
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
PENK Benjamin POWELL Harriett Whixall, North Shropshire Shrewsbury C-NS32/1/133

Shropshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1868
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
POWELL Abel HAYWARD Harriet Wem Register Office or Registrar Attended, North Shropshire Shrewsbury RO-WM/2/173

Shropshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1861
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HAYWARD George NEWBROOK Harriet Whixall, North Shropshire Shrewsbury C-NS32/1/85


1861 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7BW-JCT
Event Place (Original): Lacon, Shropshire, England
Registration District: Wem
Residence Note: Lacon
Registration Number: RG09
Piece/Folio: 1886 / 96 Page Number: 2
Abraham Ruscoe Head Male 63 Wem, Shropshire Farmer Of 272 Acres
Sarah Ruscoe Sister Female 68 Wem, Shropshire House Keeper
Sarah Madox Female 38 Wem, Shropshire Dairy Maid
Harriet Newbrook Female 19 Prees, Shropshire House Servant
Charles Fletcher Male 21 Wem, Shropshire Carter
Edward Peek Male 38 Wem, Shropshire Cowman
John Edgerton Male 15 Wem, Shropshire Carter Boy

1861 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7BC-FY9
Event Place (Original): Whixall, Shropshire, England
Registration District: wEM
Residence Note: Welsh End
Registration Number: RG09
Piece/Folio: 1888 / 99 Page Number: 10
James Newbrook Head Male 60 Whixall, Shropshire
Elizabeth Newbrook Wife Female 56 Ravensmere, Cheshire
Thomas Newbrook Son Male 22 Whixall, Shropshire
Eliza Newbrook Daughter Female 15 Whixall, Shropshire
Lucy Newbrook Daughter Female 14 Whixall, Shropshire
Hannah Newbrook Granddaughter Female 2 Whixall, Shropshire

1851 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGDR-ZN1
Registration District: Wem
Residence Note: Mill House Lane
Registration Number: HO107
Piece/Folio: 1995 / 416 Page Number: 10
Samuel Newbrook Head Male 54 Prees, Salop W Farmer 32 Acres
Charlott Newbrook Daughter Female 19 Prees, Salop U
William Newbrook Grand Son Male 1 Prees, Salop
Elizabeth Newbrook Daughter Female 12 Prees, Salop
James Newbrook Servant Male 19 Prees, Salop Farm Servant
Thomas Newbrook Servant Male 12 Prees, Salop Farm Servant

1851 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG6Z-CYY
Registration District: Wem
Residence Note: Hollin Wood Road
Registration Number: HO107
Piece/Folio: 1995 / 420 Page Number: 11
James Newbrook Head Male 50 Wem, Salop Farm Labourer
Elizabeth Newbrook Wife Female 41 Hackton, Cheshire
Martha Newbrook Daughter Female 11 Prees, Salop Scolar
Harriot Newbrook Daughter Female 9 Prees, Salop
Eliza Newbrook Daughter Female 7 Prees, Salop
Lucy Newbrook Daughter Female 999 Prees, Salop




NEWBROOK, MARTHA DEVENPORT
GRO Reference: 1840 M Quarter in WEM AND WHITCHURCH Volume 18 Page 204

NEWBROOK, HARRIOTT DEVENPORT
GRO Reference: 1842 M Quarter in WEM AND WHITCHURCH Volume 18 Page 205

NEWBROOK, ELIZA DEVENPORT
GRO Reference: 1844 S Quarter in WEM AND WHITCHURCH Volume 18 Page 192

NEWBROOK, LUCY DEVENPORT
GRO Reference: 1846 D Quarter in WEM AND WHITCHURCH Volume 18 Page 192


1841 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQRN-XDX
Event Place: Prees, Shropshire, England
Residence Note: Whixall
Registration District: Wem & Whitchurch
Parish: Prees
County: Shropshire
Registration Number: HO107
Piece/Book/Folio: 900/15/31 Page Number: 4
James Newbrook Male 40 Shropshire
Elizabeth Newbrook Female 35 Shropshire
Hannah Newbrook Female 15 Shropshire
James Newbrook Male 10 Shropshire
Elizabeth Newbrook Female 7 Shropshire
Thos Newbrook Male 3 Shropshire
Martha Newbrook Female 1 Shropshire