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Jemima Jackson nee Woodfield

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Deborah

Deborah Report 23 Nov 2019 13:13

Right, so he obviously died later than I thought then. I hadn't researched him properly yet, because it is Jemima that is the blood relative. So started with her first. I didn't expect to get all this, I really am very grateful to you all.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Nov 2019 12:58

Following on from ArgyllGran's post, I think she has found your Thomas.

Thomas
Last name Jackson
Age 54
Residence Cubington
Birth year 1787
Death year -
Burial year 1841
Burial date 04 Jul 1841
Denomination Anglican
Place Offchurch
County Warwickshire
Country England
Document type Parish registers
Archive
Warwickshire County Record Office
Archive reference DR1301/2
Event type Burials
Records year range 1813-1916
Page 22
Record set Warwickshire Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Burials
Collections from England, Great Britain
Transcriptions copyright Findmypast Ltd

Deborah

Deborah Report 23 Nov 2019 12:58

You are definitely on the right track, the name of Alcock fits in.

On the 1851 and 1861 census's Thomas is down as unmarried, unless I am reading it wrong. I did notice though that his occupation in the 1851 census is a Japanner. I looked it up and it is quite a skilled job. Lacquering of Asian artworks etc.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Nov 2019 12:25

Possible death of Thomas:

JACKSON, THOMAS 54
GRO Reference: 1841 S Quarter in WARWICK UNION Volume 16 Page 345


Ages in 1841 census are often inaccurate - rounded down within 5 years.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Nov 2019 12:18

Thomas isn't with Jemima in 1851:

Jemmima Jackson
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Jemmima Jackson
Age: 66
Estimated birth year: abt 1785
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Napton, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Offchurch
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image
Registration district: Warwick
Sub-registration district: Kenilworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 23
Piece: 2073
Folio: 641
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Jemmima Jackson 66 - charwoman, widowed <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
William Adams 55 - lodger
Louisa Allcock 5 - grand-daughter



Daughter Elizabeth's marriage:

Marriages Mar 1845 (>99%)
ALCOCK Thomas Warwick 16 503
JACKSON Elizabeth Warwick 16 503


Elizabeth Alcock
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Alcock
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: 1826
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Thomas Alcock
Gender: Female
Where born: Offchurch, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Whitnash
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
View image
Registration district: Warwick
Sub-registration district: Radford
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 30
Piece: 2227
Folio: 100
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Alcock 40
Elizabeth Alcock 35
Louisa Alcock 15
William T Alcock 13
Mary E Alcock 9
John J Alcock 5
James J Alcock 3

Deborah

Deborah Report 23 Nov 2019 12:12

Maybe not then !!! a long way to be taken to be buried, but maybe depends on where he died.

Thank you for all the extra information, much appreciated.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Nov 2019 12:09

Deritend and Offchurch are about 26 miles apart - if that's relevant to anything!

Deborah

Deborah Report 23 Nov 2019 11:56

Yes, that is the record I was looking at for Thomas.

Deritend and Kenilworth are about 18 miles apart. So I thought is was feasable.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Nov 2019 11:48

She was married in Offchurch, Warwickshire, and was living there in 1841.

Chances are, she was still there when she died.

Maybe contact the church there?
https://www.achurchnearyou.com/church/13123/find-us/

[EDIT: I see GG has found the record.}


Re Thomas - the death you mention was in Kenilworth, and his abode was Doritend.

I'm not sure that's the right Thomas. Your Thomas (Jemima's husband ) was an agricultural labourer in 1841.

This looks like that one (the one who died in 1864) in 1851

Thomas Jackson
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Thomas Jackson
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1791
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Kenilworth, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Aston
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
Town: Deritend and Bordesley
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image
Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Deritend
ED, institution, or vessel: 2i
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 239
Piece: 2060
Folio: 531
Page Number: 60
Household Members:
Name Age
Martha Mills 84
Sarah Mills 49
Martha Cambell 19
Thomas Jackson 60 - unmarried, japanner

And in 1861:

Thomas Jackson
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Thomas Jackson
Age: 70
Estimated birth year: 1791
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Kenilworth, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Aston
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
View image
Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Deritend
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 152
Piece: 2172
Folio: 129
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Jackson 70 - unmarried, life annuity
Joseph Nicholls 38



I do admit, I can't see any other likely death for Jemima's Thomas, so far.

greyghost

greyghost Report 23 Nov 2019 11:43

Is this the record you're looking at for Thomas? Again it's a transcript taken from the Parish record entry

Warwickshire Burials

First name(s) Thomas
Last name Jackson
Age 73
Residence Deritend
Birth year 1791
Death year -
Burial year 1864
Burial date 23 Jan 1864
Denomination Anglican
Place Kenilworth, St Nicholas
County Warwickshire
Country England
Document type Parish registers
Archive
Warwickshire County Record Office
Archive reference DR0101/22
Event type Burials
Records year range 1840-1878
Page 181
Record set Warwickshire Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Burials
Collections from England, Great Britain

Deborah

Deborah Report 23 Nov 2019 11:38

Thats exactly what I wanted, thank you very much for looking it up for me.

greyghost

greyghost Report 23 Nov 2019 11:34

Record Transcription: From FMP
England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

First name(s) JEMIMA
Last name JACKSON
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year -
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1858
District Warwick
County Warwickshire
Volume 6D
Page 295
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials

The handwritten pages you refer to are the GRO index to deaths - originally handwritten, in later years typed

----------------------
Death from https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro which gives age at death

Name: Age at Death (in years):
JACKSON, JEMIMA 76
GRO Reference: 1858 J Quarter in WARWICK UNION Volume 06D Page 295



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There is this burial also on FMP - handwritten as it is a Prish record completed by the incumbent of the parish - on the original image his signature shows, but nothing other than that extra to the transcript

Warwickshire Burials

First name(s) Jemima
Last name Jackson
Age 76
Residence Offchurch
Birth year 1782
Death year -
Burial year 1858
Burial date 11 Apr 1858
Denomination Anglican
Place Offchurch
County Warwickshire
Country England
Document type Parish registers
Archive
Warwickshire County Record Office
Archive reference DR1301/2
Event type Burials
Records year range 1813-1916
Page 40
Record set Warwickshire Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Burials
Collections from England, Great Britain

Deborah

Deborah Report 23 Nov 2019 11:07

I am trying to find the burial record for Jemima Jackson. She was born 1785/6 and died June 1858.

The GRO reference number for her death is volume 6D, page 295.
District Warwick, County Warwickshire.

Have looked on Ancestry, and FMP

I found her on FMP in what looks like a hand written summary book, but it just gives her name, the district and the GRO reference number.

I found her husband (Thomas Jackson 1791 to 1864) in Warwickshire, England, Church of England Burials 1813 to 1910. The entry for Thomas looks more like the church register, and gives a little bit more information.

I would be really grateful if you could have a look for me to see if her death is recorded in some sort of church/parish register.

Please don't spend too much time on this, because if she is not there I will order a PDF of the death certificate. I don't need any other information as I have most of it.

Thank you in advance.