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Shirley it does appear so .

wow Shirley thank you so much, you got my family spot on , :-D

thank you Shirley, thank you so much spot on thank you all for your input . :-D

William Gascoigne
Death Age: 82
Birth Date: 4 May 1908
Registration Date: Jun 1990
Registration district: Doncaster
Inferred County: South Yorkshire
Volume: 3
Page: 434


Ellen Gascoigne
Death Age: 77
Birth Date: 14 Apr 1912
Registration Date: Jul 1989
Registration district: Doncaster
Inferred County: South Yorkshire
Volume: 3
Page: 485

1939 register

Ellen Gascoigne
Gender: Female
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 14 Apr 1912
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 45
Residence Place: Doncaster, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Schedule Number: 96
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: KRDI
Registration district: 512/A2.
Inferred Spouse: William Gascoigne
Household Members:
Name
William Gascoigne born 3.5.1908 occ colliery hewer
Ellen Gascoigne

It does help to have the right info!


Marriages Jun 1935
Gascoigne William Holland Doncaster 9c 2022
Holland Ellen Gascoigne Doncaster 9c 2022

Ronald Clamp
Registration Date: Jul 1929
[Aug 1929]
[Sep 1929]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Doncaster
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Mother's Maiden Name: Holland
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 1244

Births Jun 1925
Holland William H Davies Doncaster 9c 1518

But they had children before the marriage

Margaret Clamp
Gender: Female
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 4 Jan 1889
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 38 , Sutton Rd.
Residence Place: Doncaster, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Schedule Number: 189
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: KRDC
Registration district: 512 A/2.
Inferred Spouse: William Clamp
Inferred Children: Dennis Clamp
Harry Clamp
Joseph Clamp
Ronald Clamp
Household Members:
Name
Dennis Clamp
Harry Clamp
William Holland born 28.5.1925
Joseph Clamp
Ronald Clamp
William Clamp
Margaret Clamp

Parents were only married a short time and he died in ww1


UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 No Image
Name: Daniel Holland
Birth Place: Shelmersdale, Lancs
Death Date: 30 May 1916
Death Place: Home
Enlistment Place: Atherton, Manchester
Rank: DVR.
Regiment: Royal Horse Artillery and Royal Field Artillery
Regimental Number: W/3788
Type of Casualty: Died
Theatre of War: Home
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Daniel Holland
Age in 1911: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Skelmersdale, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Skelmersdale
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County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 3 Sherratt Street, Skelmersdale, Lancs
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Haulier Coal Miner
Registration district: Ormskirk
Registration District Number: 457
Sub-registration district: Lathom
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Piece: 22945
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Holland 52
Jane Holland 49
Daniel Holland 27
James Holland 20
Clara Holland 17



Daniel Holland
Registration Year: 1911
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Wigan
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Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 18
Records on Page
Margaret Davies
Daniel Holland

She wasn’t Helen but Ellen !! And not a Clamp


Jun 1912
Holland Ellen Davies Wigan 8c 301

Sooo Margaret married William Clamp much later

Marriages Jun 1934 (
Clamp William Holland Doncaster 9c 1966
Holland Margaret Clamp Doncaster 9c 1966

So she wasn’t Nellie clamp !

Was her mum married twice then

There’s no helen or Nellie Holland born 1912 mmn Davies

How was she half sister to Joseph clamp

ok, done some more research about Nellie, she was born Helen ( Nellie ) Holland b 1912, married 1935 Doncaster to William Gasgcoinge, her parents were Margaret Davies b1885 Lancashire died 1963 Askern Doncaster, wife of my great uncle William Clamp b1889-1962, Daniel Holland 1884-1916 .

thank you all for reply, I did know Nellie, I know she married a Gascoigne, she died before I could ask about her/my family, she was half sister to my 1st cousin 1x removed Joseph Clamp, they had the same father but different mother .

A well-researched tree on Ancestry confirms the info posted above

Spouse: Thomas Brittlebank Armitage
Father: Thomas Clamp
Mother: Mary Howell
Children: Thomas Peter, Stanley
Birth: 04/1890 Ackton Yorkshire England
Death: 09/1958 Weston-super-Mare Somerset England
Residence: Bef 11 Sep 1915 Hemsworth Yorkshire England

Why do you think she may have married Gascoigne?

What info do you have to make you suggest that name?

Are you related to this woman? If so, how did you work back to her?

Stanley Armitage
Registration Date: Jul 1916
[Aug 1916]
[Sep 1916]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Farnham
Inferred County: Surrey
Mother's Maiden Name: Clamp
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 235


Stanley Armitage
Death Age: 59
Birth Date: 17 Jun 1916
Registration Date: Oct 1975
[Nov 1975]
[Dec 1975]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Gloucester
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 22
Page: 2049

Thomas Peter Armitage
Death Age: 62
Birth Date: 20 Jun 1925
Registration Date: May 1988
Registration district: Bristol
Inferred County: Avon
Volume: 22
Page: 355

Thomas Brittlebank Armitage
Death Date: 6 Nov 1953
Death Place: Bristol, England
Probate Date: 15 Jan 1954
Probate Registry: Bristol

Of 9 Downs Cote Avenue Westbury on Trym Bristol died at Chesterfield Nursing Home
Clifton,Bristol probate to Nellie Armitage widow

Nellie Armitage
Death Age: 67
Birth Date: abt 1891
Registration Date: Jul 1958
[Aug 1958]
[Sep 1958]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Weston-super-Mare
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 7c
Page: 240


Thomas B Armitage
Death Age: 66
Birth Date: abt 1887
Registration Date: Oct 1953
[Nov 1953]
[Dec 1953]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Bristol
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 7b
Page: 8