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Williams and Thompson, Isles of Scilly

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JacquiLouise

JacquiLouise Report 28 May 2020 15:38

Hello,

My mother's side of the family are from the Isles of Scilly and I am trying to trace her ancestors.

I'm trying to find out if I am related to an Elizabeth Mary Williams who was born on the Isles of Scilly on 5th November 1939. Her parents were John Bryant Williams and Clara Collett Thompson.

I would be grateful for any information anyone could give me.

Thank you
Jackie

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 May 2020 15:44

Who is/was your mother?

Who were her parents?

Who are the people whose names you give? How did you settle on them?

To find ancestors, start with your mother - her parents will be named on her birth cert.

Work back from them........................

No point in our looking at the people you name, until you give us some idea of why you think they're connected to your mother

Maddie

Maddie Report 28 May 2020 16:20

Name: Clara B Williams
[C Williams]
Gender: Female
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 21 May 1911
Residence Year: 1939
Address: Borough Farm.
Residence Place: Scilly, Isles of, Cornwall, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Schedule Number: 89
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: WBZB
Registration district: 301
Inferred Spouse: John B Williams
Household Members:
Name
John B Williams
Clara B Williams
Richard Thompson

Name: John B Williams
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 8 Apr 1887 - image says 07
Residence Year: 1939
Address: Borough Farm.
Residence Place: Scilly, Isles of, Cornwall, England
Occupation: Market Gardener Dairy Farm

CLARA C
Last name THOMPSON
Birth year 1911
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Collett
District Scilly Islands

JOHN BRYANT
Last name WILLIAMS
Birth year 1907
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Barker
District Scilly Islands

1911 Census For England & Wales

Borough St Marys Isles of Scilly, St Marys, Cornwall, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Williams Head Married Male 31 1880 Farmer Cornwall St Marys Scilly
Eliza Williams Wife Married Female 32 1879 - Cornwall Coverack Cornwall
John Williams Son - Male 4 1907 - Cornwall St Marys Scilly
Annie Williams Daughter - Female 2 1909 - Cornwall St Marys Scilly
Mary Williams Mother Widow Female 57 1854 - Cornwall St Erth Cornwall
Ethel Williams Sister - Female 14 1897 - Cornwall St Marys Scilly
Bertha Williams Sister Single Female 15 1896 - Cornwall St Marys Scilly
Frank Kentfield Servant Single Male 17 1894 Assistant On Farm London Wandsworth

greyghost

greyghost Report 28 May 2020 16:23

1939 register with John and Clara Williams. there is also a Richard Thompson in the household. Relationships are not given on the register but possible that Richardf is Clara's Father given his age and the fact he's living with them.

Clara B (C) Williams's life in 1939
Borough Farm, Scilly, Isles of R.D., Cornwall, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
John B Williams 08 Apr 1887 Male Market Gardener Dairy Farm Married 89 1 also a
Clara B (C) Williams 21 May 1911 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 89 2
Richard Thompson 29 May 1877 Male Carpenter Incapacitated Married 89 3
Ref: RG101/6750D/008/15 Letter Code: WBZB
© Findmypast Ltd

Without details of who your parents are/were we won't really be able to help. Tell us all you know and if you have looked for information yourself

Maddie

Maddie Report 28 May 2020 16:28

use free bmd to find children williams / thompson scilly isles

greyghost

greyghost Report 28 May 2020 16:34

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
THOMPSON, CLARA COLLETT COLLETT
GRO Reference: 1911 J Quarter in ISLES OF SCILLY Volume 05C Page 208


Marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1901 (>99%)
Collett Clara Elizabeth Scilly 5c 456 <<<<<<<<
Russell Alexander Gardner Scilly 5c 456
SANDREY Susan Kate Scilly 5c 456
Thompson Richard Scilly 5c 456 <<<<<<<<<<

greyghost

greyghost Report 28 May 2020 16:37

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Carn Thomas, Hugh Town & Garrison, St Marys, Scilly Islands, Cornwall, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John R Thompson Head Married Male 57 1844 Shipwright Cornwall, England
Elizabeth J Thompson Wife Married Female 56 1845 - Cornwall, England
Richard Thompson Son Single Male 24 1877 House Carpenter Cornwall, England
Clara Thompson Daughter Single Female 21 1880 - Cornwall, England
Alfred Thompson Son Single Male 18 1883 Carpenter Apprentice Cornwall, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 28 May 2020 16:39

A clue here back to the next generation -

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Well Lane, Hugh Town & Garrison, St Marys, Scilly Islands, Cornwall, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Richard J Collett Head Married Male 48 1853 Boatman Cornwall, England
Elizabeth A Collett Wife Married Female 51 1850 - Cornwall, England
Lillie G Collett Daughter Single Female 24 1877 - Cornwall, England
Clara E Collett Daughter Single Female 19 1882 Dressmaker Cornwall, England
Annie M Collett Daughter Single Female 17 1884 - Cornwall, England
Ethel J Collett Daughter Single Female 14 1887 - Cornwall, England
Nannie E Collett Daughter Single Female 9 1892 - Cornwall, England
Samuel Jenkins Father-In-Law Widow Male 80 1821 Gardener (Market) Cornwall, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 28 May 2020 16:43


Clara E Thompson's life in 1939
Thorough Jare, Scilly, Isles of R.D., Cornwall, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Clara E Thompson 08 Apr 1881 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 84 1
Cecil Thompson 25 Dec 1915 Male Boatman Single 84 2
Lilian M McLucas (Thompson) 16 Nov 1917 Female Domestic Service Single 84 3
Ref: RG101/6750C/008/7 Letter Code: WBZA
© Findmypast Ltd

Maddie

Maddie Report 28 May 2020 17:26

elizabeth mary williams mmn thompson appears to have married in 1960

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 May 2020 17:28

John Bryant Williams
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: John Bryant Williams
Death Age: 66
Birth Date: 8 Apr 1907
Registration Date: Oct 1973
[Nov 1973]
[Dec 1973]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Penzance
Inferred County: Cornwall
Volume: 7a
Page: 256

Address: 3 Lescudjack road, Penzance.



Clara Collett Williams
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Clara Collett Williams
Death Age: 73
Birth Date: 21 May 1911
Registration Date: Jun 1984
Registration district: Penzance
Inferred County: Cornwall
Volume: 21
Page: 360

Same address.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 May 2020 17:38

Re the 1960 marriage Maddie mentions -

that couple appear to have been living in Dyfed, 2002-15.

The house has not been sold since then, per Zoopla and other sites.

greyghost

greyghost Report 28 May 2020 18:39

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk - free to use site

Probate -
John Bryant Williams of 3 Lescudjack Road, Penzance died 27 December 1973. Administration Bristol 18th April

Clara Collett of 3 Lescudjack Road Penzance died 7 June 1984. Probate Bristol 31 July

A grant of Administration wouldn't tell you much but a copy of Clara's will might give information.

You can buy one through the site - £1.50

JacquiLouise

JacquiLouise Report 1 Jun 2020 17:14

Thank you very much everyone for all this information. It has been very helpful.

Jackie