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Elizabeth Grigg born 09/09/1888 in Marylebone

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Beryl

Beryl Report 4 Jun 2020 18:06

Elizabeth was the older sister of my paternal grandmother. Their parents were Herbert Henry Grigg b:09/03/1856 Bishops Hull, Taunton Somerset and Laura Jane Gage b:10/01/1860 Taunton, Somerset.They married 17/02/1885 in Edmonton parish church, London, and their first child Mary Eliza was born 24/06/1887 Marylebone and died 02/09/1888, just one week before Elizabeth was born.They moved back to Bishops Hull and went on to have 3 more children, Frank 29/04.1892, Edward 14/05/1894 and Laura (my grandmother) 09/01/1898 at which time her mother Laura Jane died.1901 census shows Herbert (widow) living with his own father John (widower), Elizabeth, Frank and Edward in Bishops Hull. Baby Laura is with Francis and Mary Gage (Laura Jane's brother & s-i-law). My problem now is the 1911 census has Herbert, Frank, Edward and Laura with him in Bishops Hull, I have been searching for Elizabeth now for over 10 years with out any hint of success so any help will be greatly received. If you check the 1911 census don't be confused by Herbert stating that his wife is Mary - they didn't marry until 1918.

I am keeping my fingers crossed that someone can help me solve this brick wall.
My Nan's sons both died in 1985, long before I started family history so I have not had anybody to ask these questions

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Jun 2020 18:58

Well, 1911 shows that Herbert says only one of his 5 children have died, so Elizabeth should be somewhere

I assume you’ve checked alternative spellings of the surname?

malyon

malyon Report 4 Jun 2020 19:17

are you sure elizabeth was born in london there is this birth in somerset

Births Sep 1888 (>99%)
Grigg Elizabeth Bedminster 5c 699

malyon

malyon Report 4 Jun 2020 19:36

of course she could have married by 1911

Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!

Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 4 Jun 2020 19:39

Malyon,

The GRO site gives maiden names:


Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
GRIGG, ELIZABETH GAGE
GRO Reference: 1888 D Quarter in MARYLEBONE Volume 01A Page 595

Rose

malyon

malyon Report 4 Jun 2020 19:41

Elizabeth Gregg
United States Border Crossings from Canada to United States, 1895-1956
Name:
Elizabeth Gregg
Event Type:
Immigration
Event Date:
29 Jul 1911
Ship Name:
Megantic

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Jun 2020 20:25

Malyon -
that Elizabeth was a USA citizen, according to the image of this other record:

Elizabeth Gregg
in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Elizabeth Gregg
Gender: Female
Departure Port: Liverpool, England
Arrival Date: 29 Jul 1911
Arrival Port: Quebec, Canada
Vessel: Megantic

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Jun 2020 20:33

The birth was in Marylebone. That isn’t in doubt. It’s what happened to her after 1901 that Beryl wants to know

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Jun 2020 20:38

??

Bessy Grigg
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Bessy Grigg
Age in 1911: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Tottenham Court Road, London, England
Civil Parish: Taunton St James
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street address: The Elms, Taunton, Somerset
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Servant
Registration district: Taunton
Registration District Number: 305
Sub-registration district: Taunton
ED, institution, or vessel: 05
Piece: 14238
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Joseph Van Trump 66
Elizabeth Van Trump 66
Elsie Van Trump 33
Gertrude Van Trump 32
Henry Van Trump 29
Alice Van Trump 23
Joyce Margary Van Trump 6
Christine Mary Van Trump 4
Devonie Stone 64
Bessy Grigg 22

Beryl

Beryl Report 6 Jun 2020 18:34

To ErikaH - checked alternatives for surname - Grig, Grieg, Gregg etc. no luck.
To Malyon - I've got Elizabeth's birth certificate, she was born at 107 Portman Buildings, registration district Marylebone, and I've not been able to discover a marriage for her yet.
To ArgyllGran - I must admit I didn't look for alternatives for Elizabeth as Bessie or what ever.so will have to explore the Van Trump comnnection.
Thank you very much for your help.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Jun 2020 19:11

Van Trumps were her employers