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Lawrence Tom George Todd

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Denise

Denise Report 30 Jul 2020 17:21

Thank you for all your help and information I shall look at all your suggestions.
Sorry to cause confusion by posting on two threads.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Jul 2020 08:39

Duplicate thread , also with answers:

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1385975

Denise -

You should have only one thread per topic/family, , to save people doing the research twice and unnecessarily.

But please note - the answers on your two threads aren't completely identical, so don't delete either of them now ,or you'll lose info.

For example, I said on the other thread that I believe that William's birthplace being given as Southwark in 1901 is because the enumerator mis-heard him saying "Suffolk" and thought he said "Southwark".

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Jul 2020 00:44

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
STEVENSON, TOM LAWRENCE
GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in WOOLWICH Volume 01D Page 1149

STEVENSON, MARY ANN LAWRENCE LAWRENCE
GRO Reference: 1878 J Quarter in HUNGERFORD Volume 02C Page 249

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England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

First name(s) FREDERICK
Last name STEPHENSON
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1873
Registration month -
MarriageFinder ™
FREDERICK STEPHENSON married one of these people
Elizabeth Mary Lawrence
District Hungerford
District number -
County Berkshire
Country England
Volume 2C
Volume as transcribed 2C
Page number 448
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Great Britain, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Jul 2020 00:32

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
21, Slade Cott, Plumstead, Woolwich, London & Kent, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Frederick Stevenson Head Married Male 32 1849 Brickmaker Lyneham, Wiltshire, England
Mary Stevenson Wife Married Female 28 1853 - Chippenham, Wiltshire, England
Jessie Stevenson Daughter Single Female 8 1873 - Wroughton, Wiltshire, England
Frances Stevenson Daughter Single Female 6 1875 - Wroughton, Wiltshire, England
Mary A Stevenson Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - Inkpen, Berkshire, England
Tom Stevenson Son Single Male 0 1881 - Plumstead, Kent, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Jul 2020 00:25

the 1911 census transcription has Jessie as born Wighton, Wilts, but the image is a bit unclear. I think it may well be this baptism - (note Father's name Frederick and her first child William Frederick

Transcripts show place as Wroghton or Wroughton, Chippenham and residence as Swindon

Wiltshire Baptisms Index 1530-1917 (transcript only)

First name(s) Jessie
Last name Stevenson
Birth year 1874
Birth date 09 Jan 1874
Baptism year 1874
Baptism date 24 May 1874
Residence Wroughton Nr Swinden
Place Chippenham, St Andrew
County Wiltshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Frederick
Father's last name Stevenson
Father's occupation Brickmaker
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth Mary
Record type Parish Registers
Record set Wiltshire Baptisms Index 1530-1917
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms

Another result has her DOB as 5th January and yet another as 19 January 1873

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Jul 2020 00:13

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Hampshire, Portsmouth Baptisms

First name(s) Susanna
Last name Bush
Birth year -
Baptism year 1809
Baptism date 30 Mar 1809
Baptism place Portsmouth, St John's Cathedral
Dedication St John the Evangelist
Denomination Roman Catholic
Father's first name(s) Gulielmi - Latin for William
Mother's first name(s) Briget
Mother's maiden name Redd - image says Reed
County Hampshire
Country England
Register type Baptisms
Register year range 1794-1830
Archive reference CHU 71/1A/1
Archive
Portsmouth History Centre
Record set Hampshire, Portsmouth Baptisms

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Jul 2020 23:59

Suffolk Marriage Index - transcript only, no image

First name(s) Charles
Last name Todd
Marriage year 1833
Marriage date 11 Nov 1833
Marriage place Ilketshall St Andrew
Spouse's first name(s) Susanna
Spouse's last name Bush
County Suffolk
Country England
Record set Suffolk Marriage Index
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain
Suffolk Family History Society

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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
TODD, SARAH BUSH
GRO Reference: 1851 J Quarter in WANGFORD Volume 13 Page 582

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Jul 2020 23:53

Robert with his parents -

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Great Common, Ilketshall St Andrew, Wangford, Suffolk, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Todd Head Married Male 49 1812 Agricultural Labourer Ilketshaw St Andrew England
Susan Todd Wife Married Female 50 1811 Agricultural Labourers Wife Portsmouth, Hampshire
Robert Todd Son Unmarried Male 21 1840 Agricultural Labourer Ilketshall St Andrew, Suffolk, England
Maria Todd Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1843 Agricultural Labourers Daughter Ilketshall St Andrew, Suffolk, England
Anna Todd Daughter Unmarried Female 14 1847 Agricultural Labourers Daughter Ilketshall St Andrew, Suffolk, England
Sarah Todd Daughter - Female 10 1851 Scholar Ilketshall St Andrew, Suffolk, England
Robert Char Todd Grandson - Male 3 1858 - Ilketshall St Andrew, Suffolk, England

Original shows Susan from Portsmouth - (transcribed as Charles from Portsmouth)


and 1841 -
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
St Andrew Ilketshall, Wangford, Suffolk, England

Charles Todd Male 25 1816 Suffolk, England Ag. Lab
Susan Todd Female 30 1811 Suffolk, England
Elizabeth Bush Female 7 1834 Suffolk, England
Mary Todd Female 5 1836 Suffolk, England
Hariot Todd Female 2 1839 Suffolk, England
Robert Todd Male 1 1840 Suffolk, England

As ages on 1841 census were supposed to be rounded down to nearest 5 for anyone aged over 15, this would make Charles born 1812-1816 and Susan/nah 1807-1811

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Jul 2020 23:41

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Turnpike Road, St Lawrence Ilketshall, Wangford, Suffolk, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Todd Head Married Male 50 1841 Ag Labourer Suffolk, England
Rachael Todd Wife Married Female 44 1847 - Ditchingham, Norfolk, England
William Todd Son Single Male 20 1871 Ag Labourer Suffolk, England
John Todd Son Single Male 16 1875 Ag Labourer Suffolk, England
Susan Todd Daughter - Female 14 1877 - Suffolk, England
Robert Todd Son - Male 13 1878 - Suffolk, England
Anna Todd Daughter - Female 7 1884 Scholar Suffolk, England
James Todd Son - Male 5 1886 Scholar Suffolk, England
Rachael Todd Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Suffolk, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Jul 2020 23:31

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
By the Green, St Lawrence Ilketshall, Wangford, Suffolk, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Todd Head Married Male 41 1840 Ag Labourer St Andrews Suffolk, England
Rachael Todd Wife Married Female 38 1843 - Ditchingham, Norfolk, England
Charles Todd Son Single Male 15 1866 Farm Servant (Ag Lab) Suffolk, England
Maria E Todd Daughter Single Female 13 1868 Scholar Suffolk, England
William Todd Son Single Male 11 1870 Scholar Suffolk, England
George Todd Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Suffolk, England
John Todd Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar Suffolk, England
Susannah Todd Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Scholar Wick St Lawrence, Suffolk, England
Robert Todd Son Single Male 2 1879 - Wick St Lawrence, Suffolk, England
Harriett Todd Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Wick St Lawrence, Suffolk, England

children - Charles, Maria, William, George and John born St Andrews and Susannah, Robert and Harriet born St Lawrence , Ilketshall. Close to Bungay

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Jul 2020 23:25

This birth registration in Wangford RD would cover Bungay -

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
TODD, WILLIAM DAVY
GRO Reference: 1871 M Quarter in WANGFORD Volume 04A Page 743


which would make this marriage a possibility for his parents

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1865 (>99%)

Baldry Samuel Wangford 4a 1562
Davey Rachel Wangford 4a 1562 <<<<<<<<<<<
Todd Robert Wangford 4a 1562 <<<<<<<<<<<
Waters Charlotte Wangford 4a 1562


do you have any evidence that his Father was Robert (as per your OP)

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Jul 2020 23:24

Whilst the 1911 census says that William Todd came from Bungay in Suffolk, the 1901 census has him as born Southwark, London.

A copy of his marriage certificate would give - if he knew him - his Father's name and occupation.

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Jul 2020 22:56

Births from the free site https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp
You will need to register but free to use.

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
TODD, HUGH ERNEST STEVENSON
GRO Reference: 1906 M Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 943

TODD, LAWRENCE TOM GEORGE STEVENSON
GRO Reference: 1903 S Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 961

TODD, EDWARD ROBERTS STEVENSON
GRO Reference: 1901 J Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 870

TODD, RUTH MARIE STEVENSON
GRO Reference: 1899 D Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 891

TODD, WILLIAM FREDERICK STEVENS
GRO Reference: 1897 J Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 1032

not seeing the birth of a Walter (1901 census - could a mistake have happened recording him and it's William as he doesn't appear on the 1901)


Deaths -

Name: Age at Death (in years):
TODD, RUTH MARIE 0
GRO Reference: 1900 M Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 727

TODD, EDWARD ROBERTS 2
GRO Reference: 1903 J Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 462


Possible Birth post 1911 census -

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
TODD, JESSIE JOAN STEVENSON STEVENSON
GRO Reference: 1913 S Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 1676



greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Jul 2020 22:41

1911 Census For England & Wales
7 Acorn Buildings Acorn Place Peckham London S E, Camberwell, London & Surrey, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Todd Head Married Male 39 1872 Gas Company Labourer Bungay Suffolk
Jessie Todd Wife Married Female 36 1875 - Wighton Wilts
William Frederick Todd Son - Male 13 1898 School New Cross London
Lawrence Tom George Todd Son - Male 7 1904 - Camberwell London
Hugh Earnest Todd Son - Male 5 1906 - Camberwell London


The 1911 census says on the original that they had been married for 16 years and had 5 children. 3 of those children were still alive but 2 had died

malyon

malyon Report 29 Jul 2020 22:17

Marriages Sep 1895 (>99%)
Stevenson Jessie Camberwell 1d 1577 Scan available - click to view
Todd William Camberwell 1d 1577 Scan available - click to view

malyon

malyon Report 29 Jul 2020 22:14

William Todd
England and Wales Census, 1901
Name:
William Todd
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
31 Mar 1901
Event Place:
City of London, Middlesex, England, United Kingdom
County:
London, Middlesex
Civil Parish:
Camberwell
Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Mark
Sub-District:
Peckham
Registration District:
Camberwell
Gender:
Male
Age:
29
Occupation:
GENERAL LABOURER
Relationship to Head of Household:
Head
Birth Year (Estimated):
1872
Birthplace:
Southwark, London
Schedule Type:
245
Page Number:
38
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
William Todd Head Male 29 Southwark, London
Jessie Todd Wife Female 27 Wiltshire
Walter Todd Son Male 4 New Cross, London
Edward Todd Son Male 0 Peckham, London

malyon

malyon Report 29 Jul 2020 22:07

Hugh Earnest Todd
England and Wales Census, 1911
Name:
Hugh Earnest Todd
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
1911
Event Place:
Camberwell, Southwark, London, England, United Kingdom
County:
London
Parish:
Camberwell
Sub-District:
Peckham North
Sub-District Number:
5
District Number:
27
Enumeration District:
19
Registration District:
Camberwell
Gender:
Male
Age:
5
Number in Family:
4
Birth Year (Estimated):
1906
Birthplace:
Camberwell London, London
Relationship to Head of Household:
Son
Schedule Type:
7
Page Number:
1
Registration Number:
RG14
Piece/Folio:
13
Affiliate Record Identifier:
GBC/1911/RG14/02562/0013/5
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
William Todd Head Male 39 Bungay, Suffolk
Jessie Todd Wife Female 36 Wighton, Wiltshire
William Frederick Todd Son Male 13 New Cross London, London
Lawrence Tom George Todd Son Male 7 Camberwell London, London
Hugh Earnest Todd Son Male 5 Camberwell London, London
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malyon

malyon Report 29 Jul 2020 21:57

Births Sep 1903 (>99%)
Todd Lawrence Tom G Camberwell 1d 961

malyon

malyon Report 29 Jul 2020 21:55

have you any dates when they ere born

Denise

Denise Report 29 Jul 2020 21:32

I am trying to trace my family with the name Todd. Unfortunately my father lost contact with his father following his parents divorce. I know my grandfather was Lawrence Tom George Todd and he had two brothers Hugh Ernest and William Frederick Todd. I believe my great grandfather was William Todd and my great great grandfather was Robert Todd and they came from Suffolk. Any information would be appreciated.
Thank you