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Hi,

I am looking for some help to find the following person.

Elizabeth Pye 1823 born in Shropshire l know she married William Arrowsmith

I am looking for her

Parents
Siblings
Death record

I have managed to find 4 children for Elizabeth and William

Edwin 1857
Frederick William 1859-1861
Frederick William 1862-1862
Harriet 1863

Thank you

Amanda

The marriage was in 1854, so get a copy of the cert to find if she knew her father’s name

Or........look for her in 1841 and 1851 censuses and hope she is still with birth family

Look for death on freebmd..............it’s free

Harriet’s birth was registered in Stoke on Trent district.........for INFO

Still alive in 1881 - in STAFFS, so look for death with that in mind

Death 1885 Stafford - you'll find it easily on FreeBMD.



Possble baptism (her birthplace given as Hodnet in 1881 census ):

Elizabeth Pye
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Elizabeth Pye
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 20 Nov 1823
Baptism Place: Hodnet,Shropshire,England
Father: William Pye
Mother: Susan
FHL Film Number: 502931

There's a Susannah too:

Name: Edwin Arrowsmith
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Event Place: Trentham, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original): Spratslade, Trentham, Staffordshire, England
Sub-District: Trentham
Enumeration District: 4k
Gender: Male
Age: 13
Occupation: Potter
Birth Year (Estimated): 1858
Birthplace: Longton, Staffordshire
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Son
Affiliate Image Identifier: GBC/1871/2827/0136


Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
William Arrowsmith Head M 38 Penkhull, Staffordshire
Elizabeth Arrowsmith Wife F 44 Hodnet, Shropshire
Susannah Arrowsmith Daughter F 15 Hodnet, Shropshire
Edwin Arrowsmith Son M 13 Longton, Staffordshire
Harriet Arrowsmith Daughter F 7 Longton, Staffordshire

Household ID: 69
Entry Number: 7
GS Film Number: 000836372
Digital Folder Number: 004404370
Image Number: 00141
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: N04222-1

Rose

Siblings (assuming the above baptism is correct):

Samuell Pye
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Samuell Pye
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 8 Jan 1819
Baptism Place: Hodnet,Shropshire,England
Father: William Pye
Mother: Susan
FHL Film Number: 502931


Richard Pye
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Richard Pye
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 6 May 1821
Baptism Place: Hodnet,Shropshire,England
Father: Willm. Pye
Mother: Susannah
FHL Film Number: 502931


A tree on Ancestry says this is the parents' marriage:

William Pye
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: William Pye
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 30 Mar 1812
Marriage Place: Market Drayton, Shropshire, England
Spouse: Susanna Dern
FHL Film Number: 1701214
Reference ID: item 177

However, the tree doesn't list Elizabeth or Richard as siblings, so don't know how reliable it is.

Both in 1851:

Name: Elizabeth Pye
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1851
Event Place: Drayton In Hales, Shropshire, England
Registration District: Market Drayton
Residence Note: Shropshire Street
Gender: Female
Age: 26
Marital Status: Unmarried
Occupation: House Servant
Birth Year (Estimated): 1825
Birthplace: Hodnet, Salop
Relationship to Head of Household: Servant
Page Number: 14
Registration Number: HO107
Piece/Folio: 1996 / 192
Affiliate Record Type: Household
Affiliate Image Identifier: http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBC/1851/4329558/00375&parentid=GBC/1851/0010775148


Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Samuel Brayn Head M 75 Moreton Say, Salop
Mary Brayn Wife F 71 Hodnet, Salop
Elizabeth Pye Servant F 26 Hodnet, Salop
William Arrowsmith Servant M 16 Penkhull, Staffordshire

Household ID: 2171924
Line Number: 18
GS Film Number: 101796510
Digital Folder Number: 101796510
Image Number: 00375

Rose

Birth of Elizabeth's daughter Susannah:

HARROWSMITH, SUSANNAH mms PYE
GRO Reference: 1855 J Quarter in MARKET DRAYTON UNION Volume 06A Page 707

Also this one:

Name: Elisabeth Pye
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1841
Event Place: Moreton Say, Shropshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original): Moreton Say, Shropshire, England
County: Shropshire
Parish: Moreton Say
Registration District: Market Drayton
Residence Note: Moreton Wood
Gender: Female
Age: 17
Age (Original): 17
Birth Year (Estimated): 1820-1824
Birthplace: Shropshire
Page Number: 7
Registration Number: HO107
Piece/Folio: 900/21
Affiliate Record Type: Household
Affiliate Image Identifier: GBC/1841/0900/0036&parentid=GBC/1841/0008671043


Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
John Pye M 40 Shropshire
Ann Pye F 40 Shropshire
Elisabeth Pye F 17 Shropshire
Ellen Pye F 10 Shropshire

Book Number: 2
Household ID: 748517
Line Number: 20
Digital Folder Number: 101720869
Image Number: 00036

Rose

If William and Susan(nah) are the correct parents, this is probably Susan's death:

PYE, SUSANNAH 70
GRO Reference: 1858 M Quarter in DRAYTON UNION Volume 06A Page 621

Possibly William's death, though age doesn't match 1851 below:

PYE, WILLIAM 71
GRO Reference: 1855 D Quarter in MARKET DRAYTON UNION Volume 06A Page 451


William & Susan in 1851 - one of Ancestry's mistranscriptions, with two households included as one:

Susan Ashley
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Susan Ashley - PYE on image
[Susan Pye]
[Susan Igo]
Age: 62
Estimated birth year: abt 1789
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Anne Ashley - DIFFERENT HOUSEHOLD
Gender: Female
Where born: Cheswending, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Hodnet
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district: Market Drayton
Sub-registration district: Moreton Say
ED, institution, or vessel: 8a
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 60
Piece: 1996
Folio: 487
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Anne Ashley 29 - DIFFERENT HOUSEHOLD
William Ashley 63 - PYE on image
Susan Ashley 62 - PYE on image
William Turner 1 - grandson, Hodnet


Grandson's birth ??

TURNER, WILLIAM -
GRO Reference: 1849 J Quarter in MARKET DRAYTON UNION Volume 18 Page 125

Baptism of the other Elizabeth Pye, with parents John & Ann (Rose posted 1841 census):

Elizabeth Pye
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Elizabeth Pye
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 27 Oct 1822
Baptism Place: Calverhall,Shropshire,England
Father: John Pye
Mother: Anne
FHL Film Number: 502915


If this is her in 1871, she can't be the one who married William Arrowsmith in 1854:

Elizabeth Pye
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Pye
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: 1823
Relation: Sister-in-law
Gender: Female
Where born: Woreton Wood Shropshire England
Civil Parish: Prees
Town: Prees
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wem
Sub-registration district: Prees
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 32
Piece: 2795
Folio: 51
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
John Wilson 51
Ann Wilson 42
Ann Wilson 9
Mary Wilson 8
Ellen Wilson 7
Emma Wilson 4
Hannah Wilson 3
William Wilson 9/12
Elizabeth Pye 48


Marriage of sister Ann:

Ann Pye
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Ann Pye
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 30 Dec 1858
Marriage Place: Moreton-Say, Shropshire, England
Spouse: John Wilson
FHL Film Number: 1657582
Reference ID: item 21 p 53


I think the Elizabeth born in Hodnet is more likely, given the birthplace on most censuses.

in the 1861 England Census

Name: Elizabeth Arrowsmith
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: 1828
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: William Arrowsmith
Gender: Female
Where born: Hodnett, Shropshire, England ------------------
Civil Parish: Longton
Ecclesiastical parish: Edensor
Town: Longton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Longton
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 83
Piece: 1944
Folio: 37
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
William Arrowsmith 28
Elizabeth Arrowsmith 33
Susan Arrowsmith 5
Edwin Arrowsmith 3
Fredrick William Arrowsmith 1
William Parker 33
Sarah Parker 34
John Parker 1