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britton and withers family

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alviegal

alviegal Report 3 Apr 2021 20:55

England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

First name(s) Sarah
Last name Withers
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1814
Age 53
Death quarter 3
Death year 1867
District Chelsea
County London
Volume 1A
Page 143

alviegal

alviegal Report 3 Apr 2021 20:50

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Manor Gardens North, Chelsea, London & Middlesex, England

Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Richard Withers Head Married Male 30 1821 Dealer Chelsea, Middlesex, England
Sarah Withers Wife Married Female 37 1814 Laundress >Chelsea, Middlesex, England<
John Withers Son Unmarried Male 7 1844 - Chelsea, Middlesex, England
James Withers Son Unmarried Male 5 1846 School Chelsea, Middlesex, England
Thomas Withers Son Unmarried Male 1 1850 Home Chelsea, Middlesex, England


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census

3, Manor Gardens, Chelsea, London & Middlesex, England


Richard Withers Head Married Male 40 1821 General Dealer Costermonger Chelsea, Middlesex, England
Sarah Withers Wife Married Female 45 1816 - >Ware, Hertfordshire, England<
John Withers Son Unmarried Male 17 1844 Bricklayers Labourer Chelsea, Middlesex, England
James D Withers Son Unmarried Male 15 1846 Plasterers Hawk Boy Chelsea, Middlesex, England
William Withers Son - Male 11 1850 - Chelsea, Middlesex, England
Jane Withers Daughter - Female 5 1856 - Chelsea, Middlesex, England

alviegal

alviegal Report 3 Apr 2021 20:41

National Burial Index For England & Wales


First name(s) Sarah
Last name Brittain
Birth year 1817
Age 18 mths
Death year 1819
Burial year 1819
Burial date 12 Feb 1819
Place Royston
County Hertfordshire

Death for Sarah, daughter of James and Anne. James was a labourer. So not your Sarah.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 3 Apr 2021 11:25

Christening of Richard Withers's brother Joseph, who is on the 1841 census posted above:

Joseph Whethers
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Joseph Whethers
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 4 Nov 1839
Baptism Date: 15 Dec 1839
Baptism Place: Saint Luke,Chelsea,London,England
Father: Richard Whethers
Mother: Elizabeth
FHL Film Number: 585472, 585473


However, his birth doesn't appear to have been registered, so don't know mmn.

Carol

Carol Report 3 Apr 2021 11:00

thank you everyone i will sort out what you gave me for now

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Apr 2021 10:51

Name: Elizabeth Evans
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 26 Oct 1811
Marriage Place: St. Botolph Bishopsgate, London, England
Spouse: James Britton

Name: James Britton
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 6 Jun 1814
Baptism Date: 24 Jun 1814
Baptism Place: Saint Leonards,Shoreditch,London,England
Father: James Britton
Mother: Elizabeth

Name: Sarah Ann Britton*****NOTE second forename and location
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 24 Jun 1814
Baptism Place: England, Shoreditch St Leonard, Hackney
Father: James Britton
Mother: Elizabeth Britton

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 3 Apr 2021 10:50

Richard Withers
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Richard Withers
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 2 Jan 1822
Event Place: Chelsea, London, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original): Saint Luke, Chelsea, London, England
Sex: Male
Birth Date: 7 Mar 1821
Father's Name: Richard Withers
Mother's Name: Elizabeth

GS Film Number: 585472
Digital Folder Number: 008041002
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C06705-3
System Origin: ODM

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Apr 2021 10:49

BRITTON, JAMES 44
GRO Reference: 1839 D Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 04 Page 144

BRITTON, JAMES 3
GRO Reference: 1846 D Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 04 Page 189

BRITTON, JAMES 33
GRO Reference: 1852 J Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 163


None of the above tally with the birth year you suggest

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Apr 2021 10:45

? Name: Sarah Brittain
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 21 Sep 1817
Baptism Place: Royston,Hertford,England
Father: James Brittain
Mother: Anne

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Apr 2021 10:41

1851

Name: Richd Withers
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Withers
Gender: Male
Where born: Chelsea
Civil Parish: Chelsea
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration District: Chelsea
Sub-registration District: Chelsea South
ED, institution, or vessel: 08
Household Schedule Number: 182
Piece: 1472
Folio: 208
Page Number: 50
Household Members:
Name Age
Richd Withers 30
Sarah Withers 37........born Hertfordshire*************************
John Withers 7
James Withers 5
Thomas Withers 1



1871

Name: Richard Withers
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: 1821
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Chelsea Middlesex England
Civil parish: Chelsea
Ecclesiastical parish: Old Church
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Chelsea
Sub-registration district: Chelsea, South
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 34
Piece: 75
Folio: 8
Page number: 7
Household Members Age Relationship
Richard Withers 50 Head
Elizabeth Withers 40 Wife
James Withers 25 Son
John Whylow 15 Son-in-law
Mary A Whylow 15 Daughter-in-law
Frederick L Howard 43 Visitor

Name: Richard Withers..........widower
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 48
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1821
Marriage Date: 12 Jul 1869
Marriage Place: St Jude, Chelsea, Kensington and Chelsea, England
Father: Richard Withers
Spouse: Elizabeth Whybro


1881

Name: Richard Withers
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relationship to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Chelsea, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Chelsea
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 14 Manor Gard
Marital status: Widower
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Butcher
Registration District: Chelsea
Sub registration district: Chelsea, South
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 76
Folio: 144
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Withers 60
Jane Harding 26
Frederick Harding 27
John Whybro 25
Frederick Harding 5


Name: Richard Withers
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Registration Year: 1901
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 81
Registration District: Chelsea

1841

Name: Richard Wethers
[Richard Withers]
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Chelsea
Hundred: Ossulstone (Kensington Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration District: Kensington
Sub-registration District: Chelsea North West
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 688
Book: 6
Folio: 33
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Wethers 40
Elizabeth Wethers 32
Richard Wethers 20
Jane Wethers 14
Thomas Wethers 7
Joseph Wethers 1

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Apr 2021 10:37

Name: Richard Withers
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 26 Jul 1841
Marriage Place: St Giles without Cripplegate, City of London, England
Father: Richard Withers
Spouse: Sarah Britton
Father: James Britton.........................Occ Weaver
Register Type: Parish Register

Presumably, you think that James was Sarah's father?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Apr 2021 10:34

Look at the GRO for age at death

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

Is he on any censuses?

What are you asking for in relation to the other couple?

Carol

Carol Report 3 Apr 2021 10:13

1811 marriage was bishopsgate london there are a few deaths 1839 1846 1852.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Apr 2021 10:09

Where was the 1811 marriage? Have you tried to find a death? The GRO site has age at death for the early post-1837 years

The fathers of the bride and groom will be named on the 1841 marriage cert - if they were known

Carol

Carol Report 3 Apr 2021 10:02

please can anyone help me when was james britton born 1776 -1786 he married elizabeth evans 1811 died when? richard withers born 1820? married sarah britton 1841 died 1901 in chelsea london