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Patrick Fitzgibbon(s) /Hannah Louise Downey

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Kelzi

Kelzi Report 1 Jun 2021 18:36

Searching for a marriage in Ireland c1916 of Patrick Fitzgibbon(s) & Hannah Louise Downey.Son Michael Christopher born 25th November,1919,in Queenstown,Cork.Any help much appreciated.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Jun 2021 18:47

There is an Irish BMD site. Google for the link

Are you certain there WAS a marriage?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Jun 2021 18:49

For our reference:

SR District/Reg Area - Cork
Birth of MICHAEL FITZGIBBON on 25 November 1919
Name MICHAEL FITZGIBBON
Date of Birth 25 November 1919
Group Registration ID 1736203
SR District/Reg Area Cork
Sex Male
Mother's Birth Surname DOWNEY

Michael Christopher, born at 12 Harbour View.
Father: Patrick Fitzgibbon, labourer, 12 Harbour View.
Mother: Hannah Fitzgibbon, formerly Downey.

No mention of middle name Louise.



Birth of a sister:

SR District/Reg Area - Cork
Birth of MARY FITZGIBBON on 12 September 1914
Name MARY FITZGIBBON
Date of Birth 12 September 1914
Group Registration ID 1156248
SR District/Reg Area Cork
Sex Female
Mother's Birth Surname DOWNEY

Mary Ellen, born at 8 Thomas Street.
Parents: Patrick, labourer, and Hannah, formerly Downey.


No sign of the parents' marriage on irishgenealogy.ie

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Jun 2021 19:14

Are these people on the 1911 census?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Jun 2021 19:17

??? I know they're common names, but maybe their deaths??

SR District/Reg Area - Cork
Death of Hannah Fitzgibbon in 1951
Name Hannah Fitzgibbon
Date of Death 1951
Group Registration ID 2124533
SR District/Reg Area Cork
Deceased Age at Death 64

Widow of labourer.
Died at Cork District Hospital, of Neoplasm - intestinal enteritis. Marasmus
Late of 27 Bishop Street. <<<<<<<<<<<<<




SR District/Reg Area - Cork
Death of Patrick FITZGIBBON in 1943
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Name Patrick FITZGIBBON
Date of Death 1943
Group Registration ID 2349191
SR District/Reg Area Cork
Deceased Age at Death 67

Married.
Died at Cork District Hospital, of carcinoma of pancreas.
Late of 27 Bishop Street <<<<<<<<<<<<<


Informant for both deaths is not a relative - just someone who was informant for lots of deaths in the hospital.

Kelzi

Kelzi Report 1 Jun 2021 19:28

Not certain there was a marriage Erika,but I have Michaels Birth record,& on it it has mothers maiden name of Downey.The death records could certainly be them.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Jun 2021 19:31

Where did you find the middle name of Louise for Hannah?

It's not on Michael's birth record on irishgenealogy.ie.



From Ancestry - but no image:

Michael Christopher Fitzgibbon
in the Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958
Name: Michael Christopher Fitzgibbon
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1920
Registration District: Cork
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 5
Page: 167
FHL Film Number: 101078

safc

safc Report 1 Jun 2021 19:41

????

SR District/Reg Area - Cork

Marriage of PATRICK FITZGIBBON and JOHANNA DOWNEY
on 30 August 1913

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Party 1 Name PATRICK FITZGIBBON
Party 2 Name JOHANNA DOWNEY
Date of Event 30 August 1913
Group Registration ID 1760223
SR District/Reg Area Cork


https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Jun 2021 19:45

Snap, safc! I was just about to post that!

Patrick:
full age, bachelor, labourer.
Residence: Carrigtwohill
father, Edmund Fitzgibbon, labourer, (deceased ? or maybe widower?).

Johanna:
full age, spinster, servant,.
34 Cove Street.
Father: Michael Downey, labourer, (deceased. ? or maybe widower ?)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Jun 2021 19:46

Patrick Fitzgibbon
in the Web: Ireland, Census, 1911
Name: Patrick Fitzgibbon
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 37
Birth Year: abt 1874
Birth Place: County Cork
Residence Date: 2 Apr 1911
House Number: 77
Townland/Street: Carrigtohill Town
District: Carrigtohill
County: Cork
Country: Ireland
Electoral District: Carrigtohill
Literacy: Read and write
Occupation: Labourer
Religion: Roman Catholic
Relationship: Son
URL:
Household Members Age Relationship
Patrick Fitzgibbon 37 Son
Mary Fitzgibbon 75 Head

Mary: widow, could read, spoke Irish and English.
Patrick: single, could read and write, did not speak Irish.

safc

safc Report 1 Jun 2021 20:02

????

Census Years1911CorkCork No. 4Cathedral WalkResidents of a house

Residents of a house 11.3 in Cathedral Walk (Cork No. 4, Cork)
Show all information
Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living
Downey Michael 48 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Co Cork General Labourer Read and write English Married - - - -
Downey Catherine 42 Female Wife Roman Catholic City Cork - Read and write English Married - 25 9 5
Downey Hannah 20 Female Daughter Roman Catholic City Cork - Read and write English Single - - - -
Downey Jeremiah 15 Male Son Roman Catholic City Cork Scholar Read and write English Single - - - -
Downey Edward 13 Male Son Roman Catholic City Cork Scholar Read and write English Single - - - -
Report any error in transcription

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Jun 2021 20:07

Patrick Gibbons
in the Web: Ireland, Census, 1901
Name: Patrick Gibbons
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 25
Birth Date: abt 1876
Birth Place: Co Cork
Residence Date: 31 Mar 1901
House Number: 8
Residence Place: Carrigtwohill, Carrigtwohill, Cork, Ireland
Relation to Head: Son
Occupation: Agricultural Labourer
Religion: Roman Catholic
Literacy: Read and write
Household Members Age Relationship
Edmond Gibbons 60 Head of Family (Head)
Mary Gibbons 60 Wife
John Gibbons 29 Son
Patrick Gibbons 25 Son
William Gibbons 22 Son

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Jun 2021 20:21

?? Same Downey family as 1911:


Hannah Downey
in the Web: Ireland, Census, 1901
Name: Hannah Downey
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Age: 12
Birth Date: abt 1889
Birth Place: City Cork
Residence Date: 31 Mar 1901
House Number: 1.3
Residence Place: Mary's Lane, North West Ward, Cork, Ireland
Relation to Head: Daughter
Occupation: Scholar
Religion: Roman Cathlic
Language Spoken: English
Literacy: Read and write
Household Members Age Relationship
Michael Downey 39 Head of Family (Head)
Kate Downey 36 Wife
Thomas Downey 14 Son
Hannah Downey 12 Daughter
John Downey 10 Son
Edmon Downey 3 Son
Michel Downey 1 Son

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Jun 2021 20:33

Births of siblings on 1901 census - but not Hannah:


SR District/Reg Area - Cork
Birth of MICHAEL DOWNEY on 18 May 1900
Name MICHAEL DOWNEY
Date of Birth 18 May 1900
Group Registration ID 41928
SR District/Reg Area Cork
Sex Male
Mother's Birth Surname MURPHY

1 Mary's Lane.
Parents: Michael, labourer, and Kate, formerly Murphy.


SR District/Reg Area - Cork
Birth of EDWARD DOWNEY in 1898
Name EDWARD DOWNEY
Date of Birth 1898
Group Registration ID 11272150
SR District/Reg Area Cork

1 Mary's Lane.
Parents: Michael, labourer, and Kate formerly Murphy.


SR District/Reg Area - Cork
Birth of JOHN DOWNEY in 1892
Name JOHN DOWNEY
Date of Birth 1892
Group Registration ID 9402881
SR District/Reg Area Cork

9 Jasons (?) Hill.
Parents: Michael, labourer, and Kate formerly Murphy.



SR District/Reg Area - Cork
Birth of THOMAS DOWNEY in 1887
Name THOMAS DOWNEY
Date of Birth 1887
Group Registration ID 11811292
SR District/Reg Area Cork

13 Barrack View
Parents: Michael, labourer, and Kate formerly Murphy.

Kelzi

Kelzi Report 2 Jun 2021 08:15

WOW !!! I wasn't expecting all the brilliant info.Many,many thanks to everyone who posted.Much appreciated.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Jun 2021 09:24


If the squiggles after the fathers' names on Patrick & Johanna's marriage record do mean "Deceased", I don't see the deaths.

The squiggles look a bit like "Wid", but a child's marriage record wouldn't mention the father's marital status.

I don't see the death of Michael Downey 1911-1913.

Patrick's father Edmund died between 1901 and 1911 - though I don't see his death record.
Nor can I see the death of Patrick's mother Mary at any time after 1911, when she was aged somewhere around 70-75-ish. (60 in 1901, 75 in 1911 per censuses)

Kelzi

Kelzi Report 4 Jun 2021 19:25

THANK YOU.

Kelzi

Kelzi Report 7 Jun 2021 09:43

Now looking at possible links to Edmund Fitzgibbon-a 'White Knight'?

THANK YOU everyone for all your help.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Jun 2021 11:13

Re White Knights, for our reference:

https://lordbelmontinnorthernireland.blogspot.com/2019/05/the-white-knights.html

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/FitzGibbon-203

As the last White Knight died in 1611, you'll have your work cut out to find any connection to Patrick, c300 years later!