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Marriage info please

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Sidami

Sidami Report 18 Jun 2021 16:37

I have Alexander McKensie married to Ann Louise Wynne in 1821 st Botoph without Bishopgate London would someone see if there is parents for the couple please?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Jun 2021 16:49

Ann Louisa Wynne
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936
Name: Ann Louisa Wynne
Gender: Female
Record Type: Banns (Bann)
Marriage Banns Date: 22 Dec 1821
Marriage Banns Place: St Botolph Without Bishopsgate, City of London, England
Spouse: Alexander Mackenzie
Register Type: Parish Register

In theory there's an image on Ancestry, but in fact the images jump from 14th to 23rd December.
In any case, judging by the other banns records, no parents are mentioned.


There's no image of this other record on either Ancestry or FS:

Ann Louisa Wynne
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Ann Louisa Wynne
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 22 Dec 1821
Marriage Place: Saint Botolph Bishopsgate,London,London,England
Spouse: Alexander Mackenzie
FHL Film Number: 380150, 380151

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Jun 2021 16:49

However, is this Ann's baptism?

Ann Louisa Wynne
in the London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812
Name: Ann Louisa Wynne
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 19 Oct 1800
Baptism Place: St Marylebone, Westminster, Middlesex, England
Father: Chas Wynne <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mother: Ann Wynne <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Register Type: Parish Register


Ann L M Henzie
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Ann L M Henzie
[Ann L McKenzie]
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801 <<<<<<<<<<<<
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England <<<<<<<<<<<
Civil Parish: Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: Hoxton St John
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image
Registration District: Shoreditch
Sub-registration District: Hoxton New Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 39
Piece: 1535
Folio: 476
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann L M Henzie 50
Eliza N Henzie 19


Ann Lousia Mackenzie
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Ann Lousia Mackenzie
Age: 61
Estimated Birth Year: 1800 <<<<<<<<<<<<
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Shoreditch St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: Hoxton St John the Evangelist
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
View image
Registration District: Shoreditch
Sub-registration District: Hoxton New Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 13
Piece: 238
Folio: 28
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Lousia Mackenzie 61

Maddie

Maddie Report 18 Jun 2021 16:51

Name: Alexander Mackenzie
Gender: Male
Record Type: Banns (Bann)
Marriage Banns Date: 22 Dec 1821
Marriage Banns Place: St Botolph Without Bishopsgate, City of London, England
Spouse:
Ann Louisa Wynne
Register Type: Parish Register

Sidami

Sidami Report 18 Jun 2021 17:04

Many thanks for your time I have Ann bn 26th July 1800 St Mary St Marylebone rd but can’t remember where I got that from does this sound like same person I am not from this area?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Jun 2021 17:16

???

Ann McKinzer
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Ann McKinzer
[Ann Mackenzie]
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Giles Without Cripplegate
Hundred: London Without the Walls
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: Chapel Street
Occupation:
View image
Registration District: East London
Sub-registration District: Cripplegate
Neighbors:
Piece: 727
Book: 4
Folio: 20
Page Number: 35
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander McKinzer 40 - house agent, Ireland [which could easily mean Scotland ]
Ann McKinzer 40
Alexander McKinzer 15
Ann McKinzer 6 Mo
Jane Gare 45


Possibly not the right family - the daughter Eliza who's in the 1851 census isn't with them.
But Alexander's occupation is the same as at Eliza's marriage (below).


Eliza's baptism;

Eliza Noble Mackenzie
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Eliza Noble Mackenzie
Sex: Female
Christening Date: 24 Jul 1831
Christening Place: St Giles without Cripplegate, London, England, United Kingdom
Christening Place (Original): Saint Giles Cripplegate, London, London, England
Birth Date: 24 Jun 1831
Father's Name: Alexander Mackenzie
Father's Sex: Male
Mother's Name: Ann Louisa
Mother's Sex: Female


and marriage:

Eliza Noble McKenzie
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936
Name: Eliza Noble McKenzie
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1831
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1852
Marriage Place: St Mary, Haggerston, Hackney, England
Father: Alexander McKenzie, house agent
Spouse: Richard Langhorn
Register Type: Parish Register


And I see that's where the Langhorn connection comes in, per your other threads.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Jun 2021 17:17

No info about parents on marriage records prior to the start of Civil Registration in 1837.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Jun 2021 17:18

You asked about Ann's birth.

Marylebone is right, per the 1851 census above.
She could well have been born in July but not baptised until October.

EDIT:

Looking again at the image of the baptism record, it does say born 26 July.

Maddie

Maddie Report 18 Jun 2021 17:20


Anne Louisa
Last name
McKenzie
Age
66
Birth year
1800
Death year
1866
Death date
? ? 1866
Burial year
1866
Burial date
20 Jan 1866
Place
Hackney, Victoria Park Cemetery
Burial place as transcribed
London
Denomination -
County
Middlesex

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census ?????????
Chapel Street, St Giles Without Cripplegate, East London (City of London), London
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Male
Alexander McKenzie Male 40 1801 Ireland
Female
Ann McKenzie Female 40 1801 Middlesex, England
Male
Alexander McKenzie Male 15 1826 Middlesex, England
Female
Ann McKenzie Female 0 1841 Middlesex, England
Female
Jane Gare Female 45 1796 Middlesex, England


Alexander Fletcher
Last name
Mc Kenzie
Gender
Male
Birth year
1825
Birth place -
Baptism year
1825
Baptism date
11 Mar 1825
Residence
St. Giles Cripplegate, London, England
Place
Without Cripplegate
County
London
Country
England
Father's first name(s)
Alexander
Father's last name
Mc Kenzie
Mother's first name(s)
Ann Louisa


Charlotte
Last name
Mc Kenzie
Gender
Female
Birth year
1828
Birth place -
Baptism year
1828
Baptism date
28 Sep 1828
Residence
St. Giles Cripplegate, London, England
Place
Without Cripplegate
County
London
Country
England
Father's first name(s)
Alexander
Father's last name
Mc Kenzie
Mother's first name(s)
Anna Louisa

Sidami

Sidami Report 18 Jun 2021 17:23

You are all brilliant Thankyou for your time

Maddie

Maddie Report 18 Jun 2021 17:26

Name: Francis Mackenzie
Death Age: 8/12
Event Type: Burial
Birth Date: abt 1836
Death Date: abt 1837
Burial Date: 24 Aug 1837
Burial Place: London, Middlesex, England

Name: Francis Mackenzie
Gender: Male
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 22 Jan 1837
Birth Place: England
Baptism Date: 26 Feb 1837
Baptism Place: St Giles Without Cripplegate, City of London, England
Father:
Alexander Mackenzie ---- housec agent
Mother:
Ann Louisa Mackenzie
Register Type: Parish Register