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Purplemist

Purplemist Report 1 Jul 2021 19:54

john thomas evans b1877 tipton staffordshire

on 1901 census his wife is

Ann E Evans age 26 b1875 Wife Rowley Regis, Staffordshire

on the 1911
John Thomas Evans 34 1877 Male Head Married 12 Tipton, Staffordshire Coach painter
Hannah Evans 35 1876 Female Wife Married 12 Rowley Regis, Staffordshire

on the 1939 register he is a widow

I have found a marriage on free reg for 1898 John Thomas Evans and Ann Eliza Kite it is JT he was a coach painter


another persons tree has her Hannah Eleanor Kite (Born 1876) but I cannot find her

I have sent a message to tree owner asking for info but as yet no reply they have the same date for marriage 1898

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Jul 2021 20:11

Only trust that which you can prove. Documentary evidence - not someone else’s ‘info’

Look for the wife’s death on freebmd

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Jul 2021 20:36

1901 census shows his wife’s name as Ann E, children Percy F and Gladys M

The marriage on freebmd shows her forenames as Ann Eliza

greyghost

greyghost Report 1 Jul 2021 22:44

Just for our info -

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
81, Dudley Road, Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

John Evans Head Married Male 24 1877 Coach painter Tipton, Staffordshire, England
Ann E Evans Wife Married Female 26 1875 - Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
Percy F Evans Son - Male 2 1899 - Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
Gladys M Evans Daughter - Female 0 1901 - Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England

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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:

EVANS, PERCY FREDERICK KITE
GRO Reference: 1899 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 13

EVANS, GLADYS MAY KITE
GRO Reference: 1900 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 24

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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1898 (>99%)
Evans John Thomas Dudley 6c 45
Kite Ann Eliza Dudley 6c 45

greyghost

greyghost Report 1 Jul 2021 22:53

? Her in 1891 - Ann and Hannah were interchangeable

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Dudley Road, Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire, England

Household members (8 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

John Kite Head Married Male 54 1837 Coal miner Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
Ann Kite Wife Married Female 54 1837 - Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
John Kite Son Single Male 31 1860 Coal miner Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
Joseph Kite Son Single Male 23 1868 General labourer Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
William Kite Son Single Male 18 1873 General labourer Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
Katherine Kite Daughter Single Female 20 1871 Tailoress Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
Hannah Kite Daughter Single Female 16 1875 Tailoress Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
Alice Kite Daughter Single Female 10 1881 Scholar Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England

and 1881

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Springfield Lane, Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Kite Head Married Male 43 1838 Coal miners labourer Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
Ann Kite Wife Married Female 44 1837 Coal miners labourer wife Derbyshire, England
John Kite Son Single Male 21 1860 Coal miners labourer Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
Edward Kite Son Single Male 19 1862 Coal miners labourer Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
Joseph Kite Son Single Male 13 1868 Scholar Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
William Kite Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
Catherine Kite Daughter Single Female 11 1870 Scholar Rowley
Hannah Kite Daughter Single Female 7 1874 Scholar Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
Alice Kite Daughter Single Female 2 1879 - Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England


greyghost

greyghost Report 1 Jul 2021 22:57

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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1856 (>99%)

Kite John Dudley 6c 152
Warden Ann Dudley 6c 152
Warder Ann Dudley 6c 152

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Check alternative spellings -

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
KYTE, ANN ELIZA WARDLE
GRO Reference: 1874 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 1

KYTE, CATHERINE WARDLE
GRO Reference: 1870 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 27

KYTE, JOSEPH WARDLE
GRO Reference: 1867 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 9

KYTE, JOSEPH WARDLE
GRO Reference: 1868 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 22

greyghost

greyghost Report 1 Jul 2021 23:05

John Kite and his wife Ann nee Wardle

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Dudley New Road, Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire, England

Household members (9 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Catherine Wardle Head Married Female 55 1806 - Bristol, Derbyshire, England
Elizabeth Wardle Daughter Unmarried Female 20 1841 Nailer Dudley, Worcestershire, England
George Wardle Son Unmarried Male 16 1845 Labourer Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Joseph Wardle Son - Male 14 1847 Labourer Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Sarah Wardle Daughter - Female 12 1849 Scholar Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Ann Kite Daughter Married Female 24 1837 - Dudley, Worcestershire, England
John Kite Son in law Married Male 22 1839 Coal miner Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
Sarah Kite Granddaughter - Female 3 1858 Scholar Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
John Kite Grandson - Male 1 1860 - Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England

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1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Knowle Lane, Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire, England
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Household members (7 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Kite Head - Male 34 1837 - Staffordshire, England
Ann Kite Wife - Female 34 1837 - Staffordshire, England
John Kite Son - Male 11 1860 - Staffordshire, England
Edward Kite Son - Male 9 1862 - Staffordshire, England
George Kite Son - Male 6 1865 - Staffordshire, England
Joseph Kite Son - Male 3 1868 - Staffordshire, England
Catherine Kite Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Staffordshire, England


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Jul 2021 15:16

The tree on Ancestry which claims that Hannah Eleanor was the wife, provides "proof" in the form of the GRO Index page which lists the marriage of Ann Eliza!

As already said, never believe anything on someone else's tree without checking it out for yourself.

Purplemist

Purplemist Report 4 Jul 2021 23:06

Thank you all for help I will go through what you all have provided later