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help finding family on 1871 census please

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Carter

Carter Report 12 Aug 2021 08:59

Good Morning

I wonder if anyone could help me find a family on the 1871 census. Although on censu it says born in Liverpool he was born in Milford Wales and moved to Liverpool when he was young

Baptism
23 Nov 1834 •
Hubberston, Pembrokeshire, Wales
First name(s) James
Last name Corke
Birth year 1834
Birth date ? ? 1834
Baptism year 1834
Baptism date 23 Nov 1834
Place Hubberston
County Pembrokeshire
Country Wales
Father's first name(s) Joseph
Mother's first name(s) Dorothy

Marriage
10 Jun 1855 •
St. Peter, Liverpool, Lancaster, England
James Cork - (X), Full, Carter, Bachelor, Burlington St.
Mary Ann Shillidy - Minor, Spinster, Lightbody St.
Groom's Father: Joseph Cork, Shipwright
Bride's Father: Samuel Shillidy, Porter
Witness: William Williams; Julia Clark, (X) Married 1855


this is 1851 census

James Cork
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Dorothy Cork
Gender: Male
Where born: Milford, Wales
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration District: Liverpool
Sub-registration District: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 1oo
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 168
Piece: 2177
Folio: 785
Page Number: 63
Household Members:
Name Age
Dorothy Cork 42
James Cork 16
Caroline Cork 15
Margaret Cork 12
Lawrence Cork 8
Alfred Cork 1
Edward Cork 3
Thomas Gore 73
Thomas Gore 14


This is 1861 census


Name: James Cork
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: 1836
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Cork
Gender: Male
Where born: Lpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Aidan
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration District: Liverpool
Sub-registration District: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 51
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 52
Piece: 2657
Folio: 98
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
James Cork 25
Mary Ann Cork 23
Mary Jane Cork 1


This is 1881 census his wife Mary Ann Shilliday died 1877

Name: James Cork
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relationship to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Lpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 42 Slade St
Marital status: Widower
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Carter
Registration District: Liverpool
Sub registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3600
Folio: 96
Page Number: 51
Household Members:
Name Age
James Cork 44
Jane Cork 20
Sarah Cork 17
David Cork 14
Joseph Cork 12
James Carter 21
Fredck. Shellidy 32

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Aug 2021 09:18

Two of the children are with grandparents in 1871:

Sarah Cork
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Sarah Cork
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: 1865
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool Lancashire England
Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Aidan
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 51
Household schedule number: 94
Piece: 3764
Folio: 102
Page number: 23
Household Members Age Relationship
Sarah Shilliday 57 Head
Samuel Shilliday 28 Son
Frederick Shilliday 19 Son
David Shilliday 23 Son
Mary Jane Cork 9 Granddaughter
Sarah Cork 6 Granddaughter
Patrick Riley 32 Lodger
Margret Sharkey 40 Servant

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Aug 2021 09:22

??? Looks like Cork on image:

James Cook
in the 1871 England Census
Name: James Cook
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: 1833
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool Lancashire England
Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St James the Less
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Household schedule number: 161
Piece: 3762
Folio: 15
Page number: 27
Household Members Age Relationship
James Cook 38 Head - carter [Same occupation in 1861 and 1881}
Mary A Cook 32 Wife
Mary J Cook 10 Daughter
Robert J Cook 8 Son
Sarah E Cook 6 Daughter
David Cook 4 Son
Joseph Cook 2 Son
Bernard Murray 30 Visitor
Mary Kerr 30 Visitor


Address: 9 Epsom Street

Sarah listed twice in 1871 - once with grandparents and once with parents and siblings .
Not unheard of. - I have an instance of that in my own tree.

Carter

Carter Report 12 Aug 2021 09:36

ArgylGran Thank you so much.
How strange that Mary Jane and Sarah are on both Census

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Aug 2021 10:16

Presumably the children were just with their grandparents for a short while - maybe only on the night of the census.
The grandparents would list them, as they should.
The parents would (wrongly) just list all their children, even the ones not actually there on census night.

Carter

Carter Report 12 Aug 2021 18:43

Thank you so much for your help