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Stanley Smith - Missing from Records

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Aug 2021 17:31

Please bear in mind for the future that one post per topic is a site rule, which makes a lot of sense as it is designed to ensure that people don’t use their time looking for info which has already been found

Adam

Adam Report 25 Aug 2021 16:38

Thanks all - sorry to cause confusion, I thought it might have been clearer to have a new thread as the original was about his parentage, and this one is about what happened to him after 1905.

With regards the cheque theft, that is actually a different boy.
The spectacles and socks are 'my' Stanley.

I do appreciate everyone's help, it's great that you're all able to pitch in so well.

Particularly good find with the workhouse record!

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Aug 2021 13:29

Bedfordshire, England, Workhouse and Poor Law Records, 1835-1914
Name: Stanley Smith
Age: 10
Birth Date: 1895
Residence Date: 23 Aug 1905
Residence Place: Luton
Poor Law Union: Luton
Description: Religious Creed Registers
Discharged 31st August 1905

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Aug 2021 13:07

Thanks for posting the link to the earlier thread, ErikaH.

I though this sounded familiar, and no wonder, as I've already posted the court reports on the other thread.

Much of what's on this thread has already been found for you, Adam.
You should have continued on the older thread, which would have avoided duplication of research.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Aug 2021 13:03

An earlier offence:

Stanley Smith
in the Bedfordshire, England, Petty Sessions, 1854-1915
Name: Stanley Smith
Age: 11
Birth Year: abt 1893
Court Date: 13 Jun 1904
Court Place: Bedford, Bedfordshire, England
Court: Bedford Borough Court
Roles:
Name Role
Stanley Smith Defendant
Burkinshaw Complainant

Larceny of a cheque for £32:0s:2d, the property of Cecil W Kaye at the Parish of St Paul on the 10th inst.




And possibly later ?? But no age given, so maybe not.

William Stanley Smith
in the Bedfordshire, England, Petty Sessions, 1854-1915
Name: William Stanley Smith
Court Date: 6 Aug 1915
Court Place: Bedford, Bedfordshire, England
Court: Bedford Borough Court
Roles:
Name Role
William Stanley Smith Defendant
Francis Timbrell Complainant

"Drunk while in charge in Cauldwell Street of a horse"

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Aug 2021 13:00

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1386918

Very handy that FMP alerts one to previous access of records!!!!!!!!!!!

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Aug 2021 12:58

malyon

The mother DIDN'T marry, and in any case, her name was MARY

Maddie

Maddie Report 25 Aug 2021 12:57

sister
Name: Ivy Annie Nightingale
Age: 0
Birth Date: Abt 1898
Baptism Date: 17 Feb 1898
Baptism Place: Towcester, Northamptonshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Towcester
Register Type: Parish Registers
Search Photos: Search for 'Towcester' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map:
View this parish
Mother: Mary Ann Nightingale

greyghost

greyghost Report 25 Aug 2021 12:48

Luton times 26 May 1905 - Stanley stole spectacles

Fred Rowe, step-father mentioned.

Received 4 strokes of the birch

25 Aug. 1905 Stole socks
Ordered to be sent to Reformatory School for 5 years

malyon

malyon Report 25 Aug 2021 12:45

Marriages Dec 1905 (>99%)view
NIGHTINGALE Ethel Jane Daventry 3b 237 Scan available - click to view
SMITH Sidney Daventry 3b 237 Scan available - click to view

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Aug 2021 12:29

It would be helpful if you posted census info

greyghost

greyghost Report 25 Aug 2021 12:27

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
NIGHTINGALE, WILLIAM STANLEY -
GRO Reference: 1894 D Quarter in TOWCESTER Volume 03B Page 12


Where are the family in 1901 / 1911 and under what names?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Aug 2021 12:27

A private tree on Ancestry purports to have a photo of him

Adam

Adam Report 25 Aug 2021 12:26

Hi ErikaH - the mother, Mary Ann Nightingale, did live with a James Smith but they were never married.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Aug 2021 12:26

His BIRTH name is in the opening post!!!!!!!!!!!

malyon

malyon Report 25 Aug 2021 12:22

there is no birth in bdm for stanley born 1894

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Aug 2021 12:21

For INFO

Name: William Stanley Nightingale
Age: 0
Baptism Date: 16 Nov 1894
Baptism Place: Towcester, Northamptonshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Towcester
Register Type: Parish Registers
Mother: Mary Ann Nightingale

Presumably, the mother married Smith at some stage after the child's birth?
If not, what prompted the boy's surname change?

Adam

Adam Report 25 Aug 2021 12:06

Stanley Smith of 10 Back Street Luton was sentenced to 5 years at reform school in 1905. According to newspapers, he would have to go to a workhouse until a suitable place could be found for him.
From this point on, I cannot find a record of him.

1911 Census, his mother has listed 3 dead children of which Stanley could be one (I have found 2) but cannot find a record to prove this.

He was born William Stanley Nightingale in 1894, in Northants.

Just wondering if anyone has any ideas?