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Marriage info please

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Sidami

Sidami Report 26 Sep 2021 14:26

I have Thomas E Moore bn 1887 married 1917 Brentford to.Caroline Ayres would this marriage be on other records on web sites please just would like to know bit more info please many thanks.

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Sep 2021 14:33

Nothing on FMP or Ancestry (or Family Search / FreeReg which you can check yourself).

Google for information about availability of Essex records

https://www.essexarchivesonline.co.uk

Sidami

Sidami Report 26 Sep 2021 14:46

Thankyou for
your time

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Sep 2021 15:11

Thomas E Moore
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Thomas E Moore
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 8 Jan 1887 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 3 Napier Road
Residence Place: Heston and Isleworth, Middlesex, England
Occupation: G P O Lab
Line Number: 14
Schedule Number: 49
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: BLAX
Borough: Heston and Isleworth
Registration district: 128/1
Inferred Spouse:
Caroline Moore
Inferred Children:
Henry G Moore
Charles Moore
Household Members Age
Thomas E Moore 52
Caroline Moore 53 - 29 April 1886
Henry G Moore 19
Charles Moore 17



??? Possible? although with major change of occupation between 1911 and 1939:

MOORE, THOMAS EDWARD mmn STEEL
GRO Reference: 1887 M Quarter in KINGSTON ON THAMES Volume 02A Page 325


Thomas Edwd Moore
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Thomas Edwd Moore
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: George Moore
Mother: Sarah Maria Moore
Birth Place: Kingston, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Kingston on Thames
Ecclesiastical parish: Norbiton St Peter
Town: Kingston on Thames
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration District: Kingston
Sub-registration District: Kingston
ED, institution, or vessel: 01
Neighbors:
Piece: 662
Folio: 17
Page Number: 25
Household Schedule Number: 134
Household Members:
Name Age
George Moore 51
Sarah Maria Moore 50
Ernest Henry Moore 19
Mary Ann Moore 23
Thomas Edwd Moore 14
Alfred James Moore 12
Florence Mercer Moore 20
Maud Bertha Moore 15
Isabella Moore 10


Thomas Moore
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Thomas Moore
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Kingston, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Twickenham
Country: England
Street Address: 29 Orleans Road, Twickenham
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Under Horsekeeper, brewery
Registration District Number: 128
Sub-registration District: Twickenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 01
Piece: 6834
Household Members:
Name Age
George Fredrick Hall 39
Kate Hall 38
George Henry Hall 13
William Fredrick Hall 8
Thomas Moore 24



Thomas Edward Moore
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Thomas Edward Moore
Death Age: 89
Birth Date: 8 Jan 1887 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Registration Date: Oct 1976[Nov 1976] [Dec 1976]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Hounslow
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 13
Page: 1275

Maddie

Maddie Report 26 Sep 2021 15:41

Name: Caroline Ayres
Registration Date: Apr 1917
[May 1917]
[Jun 1917]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Brentford
Inferred County: Middlesex
Spouse: Thomas E Moore
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 259

no parish records on line

1911
Name: Caroline Ayres
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Isleworth, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Isleworth
Search Photos: Search for 'Isleworth' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Country: England
Street Address: The Orangers, St Margarets Drive, St Margarets, Twickenham
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Housemaid Domestic
Registration District Number: 128
Sub-registration District: Isleworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 08
Piece: 6813
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Thomas Hare 55
Florence Edith Hare 53
Alfred Kennett Hare 22
Adrian Church Hare 19
Elizabeth Selina King 46
Annie Olivia Barnard 28
Caroline Ayres 24

Caroline
Volume 3A
Last name Ayres
Page 93
Birth quarter 1
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Birth year 1886
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Mother's maiden name Ward
Subcategory Civil Births
District Brentford
Collections from Great Britain, England
County Middlesex

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 26 Sep 2021 15:42

Name: Caroline Ayres
Registration Date: Apr 1917
[May 1917]
[Jun 1917]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Brentford
Inferred County: Middlesex
Spouse: Thomas E Moore
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 259


1939

Name: Caroline Moore
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 29 Apr 1886
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 3 Napier Road
Residence Place: Heston and Isleworth, Middlesex, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number: 15
Schedule Number: 49
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: BLAX
Borough: Heston and Isleworth
Registration district: 128/1
Inferred Spouse:
Thomas E Moore
Inferred Children:
Henry G Moore
Charles Moore
Household Members Age
Thomas E Moore
52
Caroline Moore 53
Henry G Moore
19
Charles Moore
17

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Sep 2021 15:44

Caroline born 29 April 1886, pre 1939 Register above.

Neither of these births quite matches that, but DOBs given in 1939 are often inaccurate:

:AYRES, CAROLINE mmn WARD
GRO Reference: 1886 M Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 93

AYRES, CAROLINE mmn SULLIVAN
GRO Reference: 1886 S Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 48


This is the Ayres/Sullivan child below:

Caroline Ayres
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Caroline Ayres
Gender: Female
Age: 4
Relationship: Daughter
Birth Year: 1887
Father: Henry Ayres
Mother: Emily Ayres
Birth Place: Isleworth, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Isleworth
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Residence Place: Isleworth, Middlesex, England
Registration district: Brentford
Sub registration district: Isleworth
ED, Institution or Vessel: 2
Neighbors:
Piece: 1023
Folio: 31
Household Members Age Relationship
Henry Ayres 30 Head
Emily Ayres 25 Wife
Florence E Ayres 7 Daughter
Henry W Ayres 6 Son
Caroline Ayres 4 Daughter
Emily J Ayres 3 Daughter
Rose Ayres 6/12 Daughter
William Ayres 74 Father


Caroline Ayris
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Caroline Ayris
[Caroline Ayres]
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Henry Ayris
Mother: Emily Ayris
Birth Place: Isleworth, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Isleworth
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Isleworth
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Registration District: Brentford
Sub-registration District: Isleworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 02
Neighbors:
Piece: 1183
Folio: 29
Page Number: 16
Household Schedule Number: 110
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Ayris 40
Emily Ayris 35
William H Ayris 16
Caroline Ayris 14
Jane E Ayris 13
Charles Ayris 5
Walter A Ayris 2


Caroline Ayres
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Caroline Ayres
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Isleworth, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Isleworth
Country: England
Street Address: The Orangers, St Margarets Drive, St Margarets, Twickenham
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Housemaid Domestic
Registration District Number: 128
Sub-registration District: Isleworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 08
Piece: 6813
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Thomas Hare 55
Florence Edith Hare 53
Alfred Kennett Hare 22
Adrian Church Hare 19
Elizabeth Selina King 46
Annie Olivia Barnard 28
Caroline Ayres 24


Marriages Mar 1884 (>99%)
AYRES Henry Brentford 3a 144
SULLIVAN Emily Brentford 3a 144

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Sep 2021 15:49

This is the Ayres/Ward couple, whose daughter Caroline was also born in Brentford 1886:

Edward Charles Ayres
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936
Name: Edward Charles Ayres [ carman ]
Gender: Female
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 23 Jul 1882
Marriage Place: St Lawrence, New Brentford, Hounslow, England
Father: Edward Ayres [ gardener ]
Spouse: Betsy Joyce Ward
Register Type: Parish Register

Betsy's father: George Ward, stoker


Edward Charles Ayres
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Edward Charles Ayres
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 10 May 1863
Baptism Place: Clewer, Berkshire, England
Father: Edward Ayres
Mother: Emma Ayres
FHL Film Number: 1040720
Reference ID: it 3, p 32, no 255


Edward Ayres
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Edward Ayres
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: 1870
Relation: Son
Gender: Male
Where born: Windsor Berkshire England
Civil parish: Ealing
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Brentford
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 182a
Piece: 1317
Folio: 36
Page number: 35
Household Members Age Relationship
Edward Ayres 26 Head - GARDENER
Emma Ayres 30 Wife
Edward Ayres 1 Son



Caroline Ayres
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Caroline Ayres
Gender: Female
Age: 5
Relationship: Daughter
Birth Year: 1886
Father: Edward Ayres
Mother: Elizabeth Ayres
Birth Place: Brentford, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Hammersmith
Residence Place: Hammersmith, London, England
Registration district: Fulham
Sub registration district: St Paul Hammersmith
ED, Institution or Vessel: 4
Neighbors:
Piece: 36
Folio: 128
Household Members Age Relationship
Edward Ayres 26 Head
Elizabeth Ayres 30 Wife
Caroline Ayres 5 Daughter
Edward Ayres 8 Son
Annie Ayres 1 Daughter



Caroline Ayres
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Caroline Ayres
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Mother: Elizabeth Ayres
Birth Place: Brentford, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Hammersmith
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen Shepherds Bush
County/Island: London
Country: England
Condition as to marriage:
Registration District: Fulham
Sub-registration District: North Hammersmith (including Starch Green)
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors:
Piece: 42
Folio: 118
Page Number: 28
Household Schedule Number: 193
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Ayres 39
Caroline Ayres 19
Charlie Ayres 8


And her marriage, just to rule her out definitely:

Marriages Dec 1901 (>99%)
AYRES Caroline Fulham 1a 676
BUTTERFIELD John Fulham 1a 676

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 26 Sep 2021 18:11

It’s mostly London parish record certificates that are online on ancestry

You would need to buy the certificate for the one you want for its info

Sidami

Sidami Report 26 Sep 2021 22:28

Thankyou all very much