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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Oct 2021 18:16

As Andrew and William were both tenants at Newhouse (which is a farm ) it does seem reasonable to think they were father and son.

Newhouse:

https://mapcarta.com/W361384552

alviegal

alviegal Report 1 Oct 2021 18:01

Was looking at this earlier.

First name(s) William
Last name Knox
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Knox
Birth year -
Father Occupation Tenant
Baptism year 1762
Archive Ref OPR 795/1
Baptism date 11 Apr 1762
Year Range 1737-1824
Residence Newhouse
Item 7
Place Lilliesleaf Lindean
Record set Scotland, Parish Births & Baptisms 1564-1929
County Roxburghshire
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Country Scotland
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Mother's first name(s) Janet
Mother's last name Smaill
Collections from Great Britain, Scotland

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Oct 2021 17:30

The children's births from SP:

KNOX
ANDREW
WILLIAM KNOX/JANET SMAILL FR51 (FR51)
M
15/01/1758
795/
10 49
Lilliesleaf


KNOX
EBENEZER
WILLIAM KNOX/JANET SMAILL FR51 (FR51)
M
22/11/1769
795/
10 49
Lilliesleaf


KNOX
JAMES
WILLIAM KNOX/JANET SMAILL FR51 (FR51)
M
08/02/1777
795/
10 49
Lilliesleaf


KNOX
JOHN
WILLIAM KNOX/JANET SMAILL FR51 (FR51)
M
03/04/1764
795/
10 49
Lilliesleaf


KNOX
THOMAS
WILLIAM KNOX/JANET SMAILL FR51 (FR51)
M
02/10/1759
795/
10 49
Lilliesleaf


KNOX
WALTER
WILLIAM KNOX/JANET SMAILL FR51 (FR51)
M
19/03/1766
795/
10 49
Lilliesleaf


KNOX
WILLIAM
WILLIAM KNOX/JANET SMAILL FR51 (FR51)
M
11/04/1762
795/
10 49
Lilliesleaf


KNOX
JANE
WILLIAM KNOX/JANET SMAILL FR51 (FR51)
F
24/06/1756
795/
10 49
Lilliesleaf

KNOX
MARGARET
WILLIAM KNOX/JANET SMAILL FR51 (FR51)
F
27/04/1774
795/
10 49
Lilliesleaf

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Oct 2021 17:24

This is on somebody's tree on FamilySearch - but you should never take anything on someone's tree as the truth unless there's documentary proof.


William Knox

Pedigree Resource File
Finlayson-Scott Jul20

Birthabout 1722
Marriageabout 1755
Death25 February 1796
BurialLilliesleaf Churchyard
Death25 February 1796
BurialLilliesleaf Churchyard

Father:Andrew Knox
Mother:Margaret Kirkwood
Spouse:Janet Smaill
Children:Margaret Knox, Ebenezer Knox, James Knox, Walter Knox, John Knox, Jane Knox, William Knox, Thomas Knox, Andrew Knox



The children's births are documented on SP - but no record of the parents' marriage, nor William's birth.

The tree "owner" says the info about Andrew, Margaret, and William is from inscriptions on stones in Lilliesleaf churchyard - but they have made a lot of assumptions about relationships - as follows, copied from FS.

"Deaths are from MI's and photos for Lilliesleaf churchyard.
"Sacred to the memory of William Knox late tenant in Newhouse who died 25.2.1796 in the 74th year of his life. Janet Smaill his wife dies 10.4.1791 aged 60 years... etc"
**************************
On Margaret Knox's birth image she is baptized 27 Apr 1774 in Lilliesleaf. Parents shown as William Knox and Janet Smaill tenants in Newhouse.
**************************
To go back:-
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On an adjacent tombstone there is the MI "Here lyes Andrew Knox late tenant in Newhouse who died February 1768 aged 77 years. Margaret Kirkwood his spouse who died July 1768 aged 74 years..."
Assuming these as the parents of William Knox since their death dates would allow him to take over the tenancy at age 46, and his birth is when she is 28.
There are quite a few Knox inscriptions on these adjacent stones which could be siblings or uncles etc."



There are no parents for either Andrew or Margaret shown on that tree.

alviegal

alviegal Report 1 Oct 2021 17:12

Deaths of Margaret Knoxs in 1768.

KNOX
MARGARET

STROTH / GEORGE KNOX

F
03/01/1768

Methlick


KNOX
MARGARET

JOHNSTON / WILLIAM JOHNSTON

F

20/12/1768

Methlick


Can't see deaths for Andrew or William in the years given.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Oct 2021 17:07

Can't see any record of the birth of a William Knox in Lilliesleaf c1731.

alviegal

alviegal Report 1 Oct 2021 17:01

Could you tell us how you get to these people please? Do you have any records for baptisms, marriages etc?

Maddie

Maddie Report 1 Oct 2021 16:44

if they married in 1710 a little unlikely child born 21 years later but i could be well wrong
nothing on scotlands people between1710 and 1735 for that couple

alviegal

alviegal Report 1 Oct 2021 16:35

Baptism year 1690
Mother's first name(s) Marion
First name(s) Androw
Mother's last name Scheill
Last name Knox
Residence Ashkirk, Selkirk, Scotland
Gender Male
Place Ashkirk
Birth year 1690
County Roxburghshire
Birth place -
Country Scotland
Baptism date 09 Feb 1690
Record set Scotland, Parish Births & Baptisms 1564-1929
Baptism place ASHKIRK, ROXBURGH, SCOTLAND
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Father's last name Knox
Collections from Great Britain, Scotland

I hate the way fmp has this coming out all mixed up when you c&p.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Oct 2021 15:57

KNOX
ANDREW
MARGARET /FR78 (FR78)
01/09/1710
495/
10 134
Cumbernauld

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Oct 2021 15:55

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/advanced-search

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nameslessone

nameslessone Report 1 Oct 2021 15:48

You need Scotlands People for Scottish records.

You may find some on Family Search which is free.

Amanda

Amanda Report 1 Oct 2021 15:46

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone could help me to find some of my Scottish relatives.

Andrew Knox 1690-1768
Birthplace---Ashkirk, Roxburghshire, Scotland, United Kingdom

He married

Margaret Kirkwood 1684-1768
Birthplace-- Cumbernauld, North Lanarkshire, Scotland

I think Andrew and Margaret married around 1710

I know of one son William Knox 1731-1796
Birthplace--Lilliesleaf, The Scottish Borders, Scotland, United Kingdom


I am looking for possibly more children they may have?

Possible there parents.

Thank you

Amanda