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James Browne born 1862 Ireland

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Beryl Report 10 Dec 2021 18:44

I am trying to find any info about my ancestor James Browne who was married to Anne Browne (nee Rushton). They had a daughter, Kate Violet born 15/05/1882.
He worked as a Game Keeper at Drumbanagher House in Poyntzpass, Co. Armagh.
If anyone is able to assist me in furthering my research I will be grateful.


ErikaH Report 10 Dec 2021 19:02

The marriage cert will name his father - if known


nameslessone Report 10 Dec 2021 19:03

Welcome to Genes and the boards.

It would help those with knowledge of Irish research if you gave a bit more information.

Where have you already looked and have you looked at the search family trees to see if anyone has them in their tree?

Do you know how old James was when he married.? Is he on the 1901 census?


alviegal Report 10 Dec 2021 19:08

A tree on ancestry has this for the daughter, along with a photo.

15 May 1882 • County Armagh Ireland

Birth of daughter Shelagh Alice Perks SHINGLER(1909–1996)
22 Sep 1909 • Johannesburg, Gauteng, South Africa

Death of husband Edward Perks Shingler(1864–1922)
22 September 1922 • Johannesburg South Africa

1960 • Durban South Africa

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Dec 2021 21:23

Name: Kate Violet Browne
Date of Registration: 1882Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Newry
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 1
Page: 805
FHL Film Number: 101058


greyghost Report 10 Dec 2021 22:57

For our info -

Date of Birth 1882
Group Registration ID 11325949
SR District/Reg Area Newry
Sex N/R
Mother's Birth Surname N/R

From image - births registered in the district of Poyntzpass in the Union of Newry in the County of Armagh

Kate Violet born 15 May 1882 at ? Skiggatalla,
Father James Browne a Gamekeeper of ?Skiggatella and Anne Browne formerly Rushton


greyghost Report 10 Dec 2021 23:27

From Family Search - Marriage - no help to OP question though

Edward Perks Shingler aged 44 a Bachelor b Grahamstown married
Kate Violet Browne age 26 born Drumbanagher, Co Armagh, Ireland
on 25th November 1908 Witwatersrand, Johannesburg.

No family information shown


greyghost Report 10 Dec 2021 23:44

Might there be family records - there is an Estate Shoot still held - probably where James was Gamekeeper?

Drumbanagher House
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Coordinates: 54.2667°N 6.3833°W Drumbanagher House (also known as Drumbanagher Castle and Closes Castle), near Poyntzpass, County Armagh, was a large country house in Northern Ireland designed for Maxwell Close by William Notman, working under William Playfair[1] in 1829, being "one of his grandest country houses."[2][3]

Following occupation by the American and British armies during World War Two, Drumbanagher was demolished by its owner in 1951 due to the expense in up keeping the property; the estate remains in the possession of the Close family. Writing in the Belfast Telegraph in 1962 the then owner said;

"No mortal could have afforded to keep the castle going. So I had it demolished. Death duties, upkeep and financial difficulties meant I just had to get rid of it...It was perfectly sound and in good order when it was demolished...Now it looks like a nuclear bomb hit it."
Today, all that remains of the house is the "vast arched porte-cochere" (Bence-Jones), which Sir Charles Brett described as "resembling a Roman Arc de Triomphe."


ArgyllGran Report 10 Dec 2021 23:51

Photos of the house here:


greyghost Report 10 Dec 2021 23:57

Is that your entry on Wikitree (as Beryl Smith) - joined 7 Dec 2021 - states you don't know who Kate's (your GT Grandma) parents were?


safc Report 11 Dec 2021 00:22


Marriages Dec 1869 (>99%)
BROWN James Gateshead 10a 930
CATTERSON John Robert Gateshead 10a 930
RUSHTON Ann Gateshead 10a 930
Taylor Harriet Emily Gateshead 10a 930


nameslessone Report 11 Dec 2021 09:01

So James and Ann are more likely to have been English rather than Irish.

Beryl definetly needs to get that marriage certiifcate.


ArgyllGran Report 11 Dec 2021 10:06

The title of Beryl's thread says that James was born in 1862.

If that's correct, the 1869 marriage isn't his.

Have you found a record of James and Anne's marriage, Beryl?
If not, how do you know when James was born? Or is 1862 only a guess?


ErikaH Report 11 Dec 2021 10:12

Can't see any of the people named on 1901 Irish Census. When did they emigrate to SA?


ArgyllGran Report 11 Dec 2021 10:22

Re the 1869 marriage -
Harriet E is John Robert Catterson's wife in 1871 census.

[In reply to a query, now removed, about who married whom in 1869]


ErikaH Report 11 Dec 2021 10:34

:-) :-) :-)


Beryl Report 5 Feb 2022 01:38

Hi All
Many thanks for your fabulous replies, I really appreciate it.
I had a friend staying for Christmas and have only had a chance to look at my genealogy project today.
I will be doing some further research.
It was only a guess as to James' age, but if he was born in England, it would explain why I could not find anything in Ireland.
Thanks again!
Beryl :-D :-D :-D