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Charles Mead 1859

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Terence

Terence Report 20 Dec 2021 00:30

Another "Brick Wall" I'm afraid!
The Charles Mead 1859-1937 (originally from Medmenham/Marlow, Buckinghamshire), memorial in west Drayton, Middlesex mentions a "Sarah Hannah Mead", passed away January 5th 1923, aged 55 years. Others mentioned are Emily Mead (his first wife) died September 3rd 1904, aged 47years and their daughter Melinda Annie, died May 18th 1971. Unmarried it seems!

Firstly, cannot find Charles and Emily on the 1901 census, but their daughter Melinda is shown "In service" in the 1901 and 1911 census with, respectively, the Beale and Moses families.

The only Sarah Hannah (Milling), from Leeds, Yorkshire), I can find, is a marriage to a Charles Mead in Guildford, Surrey, in OND 1907. She died in 1923.
Cannot seem to find them in the 1911 census!

Later, Charles is with daughter Melinda in the 1929 and 1935 electoral roles in Yewsley/West Drayton, an area of Middlesex.
(After father Charles passed away, Melinda is with cousin Mabel1896 in the 1939 register still in Yewsley).

My question is....What happened with Charles shortly after Emily died in 1904?

Can anyone add to all this please?

Terence Meads. South Australia.

safc

safc Report 20 Dec 2021 03:47

????

Melinda A Meads
Census • England and Wales Census, 1891
Event Type Census
Event Place Note Riching Park
Name Melinda A Meads
Sex Female
Age 6
Event Date 1891
Event Place Iver, Buckinghamshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original) Iver, Buckinghamshire, England
Enumeration District 7
Registration District Eton
Birth Year (Estimated) 1885
Birthplace Buckinghamshire, England
Marital Status Single
Occupation Scholar
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Page Number 22
Piece/Folio 1133/ 98
Registration Number RG12
Melinda A Meads's Parents and Siblings
Chas Meads
Father
Event Type Census
Event Place Note Riching Park
Name Chas Meads
Sex Male
Age 33
Event Date 1891
Event Place Iver, Buckinghamshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original) Iver, Buckinghamshire, England
Enumeration District 7
Registration District Eton
Birth Year (Estimated) 1858
Birthplace Buckinghamshire, England
Marital Status Married
Occupation Farm Servant
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Page Number 22
Piece/Folio 1133/ 98
Registration Number RG12
Emily Meads
Mother
Other People on This Record
Thos Meads
Event Type Census
Event Place Note Riching Park
Name Thos Meads
Sex Male
Age 14
Event Date 1891
Event Place Iver, Buckinghamshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original) Iver, Buckinghamshire, England
Enumeration District 7
Registration District Eton
Birth Year (Estimated) 1877
Birthplace Middlesex, England
Marital Status Single
Occupation Farm Servant
Relationship to Head of Household Nephew
Page Number 22
Piece/Folio 1133/ 98
Registration Number RG12

safc

safc Report 20 Dec 2021 04:18

????

Births Sep 1884 (>99%)
Meads Milinda Annie Eton 3a 598

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 20 Dec 2021 07:56

Charles Henry Meads
in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
ViewLondon, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Charles Henry Meads
Electoral Date: 1909
Street Address: 28, King's-road, Teddington
Ward or Division/Constituency: Uxbridge
County or Borough: Hounslow, England

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 20 Dec 2021 08:07

Are you sure you have the right death for Emily


?

Deaths Sep 1904
MEAD Emily 48 Kensington 1a 101



Charles Meads
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1858
Marriage Date: 27 May 1882
Marriage Place: St Margaret, Uxbridge, Hillingdon, England
Father:
Joseph Meads
Spouse:
Emily Gray age 26 born c 1856
Register Type: Parish Register

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 20 Dec 2021 08:16

Have you got certificates to check it’s the right family each time

Both marriage certs should give ages and fathers name and occupation

Sarah Hannah was Millman not milling

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 20 Dec 2021 08:21

Sarah H Millman
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Hampstead
Search Photos: Search for 'Hampstead' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Hampstead
Sub-registration District: Hampstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 123
Folio: 46
Page Number: 37
Household Schedule Number: 178
Household Members:
Name Age
David J Dunlop 48
Laura F Dunlop 39
James W Dunlop 11
Walter Dunlop 18
Sybil Dunlop 19
David C Dunlop 3
Evelyn A Dunlop 12
Emma Norris 19
Florence M Smart 23
Sarah H Millman 33
Mary Austin 31
Bessie Smith 18

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Dec 2021 08:31

MEADS, MILINDA ANNIE mmn GRAY
GRO Reference: 1884 S Quarter in ETON BUCKS Volume 03A Page 598

Marriages Jun 1882 (>99%)
GRAY Emily Uxbridge 3a 56
MEADS Charles Uxbridge 3a 56


Repeating 1891 in more readable form:

Emily Meads
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Emily Meads
Gender: Female
Age: 34
Relationship: Wife
Birth Year: 1857
Spouse:
Chas Meads
Child:
Melinda H Meads
Birth Place: Uxbridge, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Iver
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Residence Place: Iver, Iver, Buckinghamshire, England
Registration district: Eton
Sub registration district: Iver
ED, Institution or Vessel: 7
Neighbors:
Piece: 1133
Folio: 98
Household Members Age Relationship
Chas Meads 33 Head - Iver, Bucks
Emily Meads 34 Wife - Uxbridge
Melinda H Meads 6 Daughter
Thos Meads 14 Nephew


??
GRAY, EMILY mmn TOWNSEND
GRO Reference: 1856 D Quarter in UXBRIDGE UNION Volume 03A Page 25

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 20 Dec 2021 08:43

There was another sister

MEADS, MABEL GRAY
GRO Reference: 1896 J Quarter in UXBRIDGE Volume 03A Page 27

1939 register

Name: Mabel Mead
[Mabel Meads]
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 16 Mar 1896
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 1 Wire Lane
Residence Place: Yiewsley and West Drayton, Middlesex, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number: 30
Schedule Number: 157
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: BZAB
Borough: Yiewsley and West Drayton
Registration district: 127/1
Household Members Age
Melinda A Mead
55
Mabel Mead 43
S


Edit she however is the same family as Lizzie Melinda meads

Mabel Meads
Age in 1911: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Yiewsley, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Yiewsley
Search Photos: Search for 'Yiewsley' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Country: England
Street Address: 2 Albert Villas, Albert Road, Yiewsley, Middx
Marital status: Single
Registration District Number: 127
Sub-registration District: Hillingdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 07
Piece: 6764
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Meads 58
Charlotte Meads 56
William Meads 34
John Meads 30
Bert Meads 23
Frank Meads 20
Mabel Meads 15
Maud Meads 13



So families are related as Joseph is a brother of Charles

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 20 Dec 2021 08:44

And possibly

MEADS, LIZZIE MELINDA GRAY
GRO Reference: 1895 M Quarter in UXBRIDGE Volume 03A Page 30

Edit different family is a sibling of Mabel meads and cousin of Melinda

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 20 Dec 2021 08:46

Living with Charles

Melinda Annie Mead
Electoral Date: 1933
Ward or Division/Constituency: Uxbridge
County or Borough: Hillingdon, England
Address 1 wise way


Charles Mead
Death Date: 17 Oct 1937
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Probate Date: 29 Mar 1938
Probate Registry: London, England

Of 1 Wise Lane died Hillingdon Hospital

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Dec 2021 09:07

For our reference:

Sarah Hannah Mead
in the London, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-2003
Name: Sarah Hannah Mead
Death Age: 55
Record Type: Burial
Birth Date: abt 1868
Death Date: Abt 1923
Burial Date: 11 Jan 1923
Burial Place: St Martin, West Drayton, Hillingdon, England
Register Type: Parish Register

Address: The Lodge, Dalgarvin (?) Gardens, Kensington

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Dec 2021 09:11

Living with Charles:

Sarah Hannah Mead
in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Sarah Hannah Mead
Electoral Date: 1920
Street Address: West London Cricket [ Dalgarno Gardens ]
Ward or Division/Constituency: Kensington
County or Borough: Kensington and Chelsea, England

Also there in 1921, 1919 and 1918.

Charles there on his own in 1924, after Sarah's death.


Charles was at West London Cricket Ground - "caretaker's residence" - from at least 1902 onwards.
Only the main householders are listed in the earlier years (at least 1902-1911 re Charles) so no mention of Sarah (or Emily).
1902-11 the cricket ground's address is given as Highlever Road (Upper).


Perhaps the enumerator by-passed the cricket ground in 1901 and 1911, not realising anyone lived there??

Nowadays the Sutton estate (Sutton Way) is where the cricket ground used to be - opposite the junction of Dalgarno Gardens and Highlever Road.

Terence

Terence Report 21 Dec 2021 04:02

Thank you to all of you for the above information. No wonder we cannot find Charles registered at the cricket ground in 1901 and 1911 census.
Perhaps the 1921 census will at least show Charles and Sarah there.
If their marriage is valid, why Guildford, when other relations are in the Yewsley/Drayton area! Perhaps Charles got to know her there when she was "In service" in the area!

Again, thank you all. Shirley.....you seem to have "got the hang of it" a lot more now!

Terence.

Maddie

Maddie Report 22 Dec 2021 12:27

do you have this


Name: Sarah Hannah Mead
Death Date: 5 Jan 1923
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Probate Date: 12 Feb 1923
Probate Registry: London, England

of the west lodge cricket ground north kenington wife of charles mead died 5th jan 1923
admin to charles mead groundsman
effects £342 18s 5d

Terence

Terence Report 22 Dec 2021 22:36

Thanks Maddie, I did not have this.

Terence.