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I am hitting a brick wall with this one can anyone help? Joseph James Mullen was born in 1890 in Barrow-in-Furness, I have him in the 1891 census and then the 1901 census but he seems to just disappear after that ? I can find no record of his death or any marriage. I have also had a look for any military records for him but again nothing was found.

National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914
Barrow-In-Furness, Lancashire, England

Transcript of Jos Jas's record
First name(s) Jos Jas
Parent's name(s) Lucy Mullen
Last name Mullen
Book type Admissions
Birth year 1890
Archive Barrow-in-Furness Record Office, Cumbria
Birth date 25 Apr 1890
Archive reference BDS_28_2_1
Event year 1903
Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914
School name Thwaite Street School
Category Education & work
Town Barrow-In-Furness
Subcategory Schools & Education
County Lancashire
Collections from Great Britain, England


Posting for helpers reference.

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
7, Arthur Street, Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England

Household members (7 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Lucy Mullen Head
Widow Female 44 1857 - Ireland
Peter Mullen Son
Single Male 22 1879 Shipyard labourer Ireland
Thomas Mullen Son
Single Male 19 1882 Steam machine worker Ireland
Hugh Mullen Son
- Male 17 1884 Ship yard labourer Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England
Joseph Mullen Son
- Male 9 1892 - Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England
Lizzie Mullen Daughter
- Female 5 1896 - Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England
Esther Mullen Daughter
- Female 15 1886 Servant domestic Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England

And the mother in 1911 so no help there.

1911 Census For England & Wales
38 Hood St Barrow in Furness, Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England

Household members (9 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph O Neill Head
Married Male 47 1864 Steel worker bessiers furnace Workington Cub
Esther O Neill Wife
Married Female 26 1885 - Lancs Barrow
Joseph O Neill Son
- Male 8 1903 School Lancs Barrow
John O Neill Son
- Male 6 1905 School Lancs Barrow
Thomas O Neill Son
- Male 4 1907 - Lancs Barrow
Lawrance O Neill Son
- Male 1 1910 - Lancs Barrow
Mary O Neill Mother
Widow Female 74 1837 - Armagh Ireland Resident
Lucy Mullen Mother in law
Widow Female 53 1858 - Cumberland Egremont
Lizzie Mullen Sister in law
- Female 15 1896 Servant day girl domestic Lancs Barrow

Have you looked for him in Ireland?

I'm on with searching Irish & Scottish records at the moment,but can't seem to find anything.

My cousin thinks she's found him in the 1911 census at the Trevelyan Hotel in Barrow-in-Furness,under the name Joseph Mullin.I think that could well be him although year of birth doesn't fit.

He didn't die in Scotland.

There are a few possibilities in Ireland, but without middle name or initial -
and only feasible if he somehow avoided appearing in the 1911 census.

Unfortunately, Joseph Mullen is a very common name.

Could possibly be him. In the 1901 census he is also said to have been born in 1892.


1911 Census For England & Wales
Trevelyan Hotel 1 Dalkeith St Barrow-N-Furness, Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England

Household members (15 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Campbell Boarder
Married Male 35 1876 Engineer Kilnmouth Visitor
Bridgett Brenman Wife
Married Female 51 1860 Hotel keeper Co Armagh Ireland Neway Resident
John Brenman Head
Married Male 56 1855 Hotel keeper Drindale Resident
Peter Brenman Son
Single Male 16 1895 Electricalengineer Lancs Barrow in Furness
Alice Brenman Daughter
Single Female 15 1896 School Lancs Barrow in Furness
Thomas Brenman Son
Single Male 13 1898 School Lancs Barrow in Furness
Catherine Brenman Daughter
Single Female 10 1901 School Barrow in Furness Lancs
John Brenman Son
Single Male 9 1902 School Barrow in Furness Lancs
Frederick Johnson Boarder
Married Male 68 1843 Hotel porter Rugby
Sarah Lowe Servant
Widow Female 45 1866 Cook Lancs Manchester
>>Joseph Mullin Servant
Single Male 19 1892 Hotel porter Lancs Barrow in Furness
Margaret McStone Servant
Single Female 27 1884 Servant domestic Cumb Cleaton Moose
Minnie Bagley Servant
Single Female 23 1888 Servant domestic Denmark Resident
Ada Young Servant
Single Female 22 1889 Servant domestic Cumb Milloway
Miriam Taylor Servant
Single Female 22 1889 Bar maid Lancs Barrow in Furness

Joseph
Mullens
1888
Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England==birth place.
St Marylebone
St Marylebone
London, Middlesex


?
from the 1921 census.

The 1911 you refer to in which his age and therefore birth year equate to the 1901 census already posted.
The writing on the original is a bit of a scrawl and the I of Mullin could just as easily be an E. Single is written several times by various names and the E at the end of the word looks like a I in places.

1911 Census For England & Wales
Trevelyan Hotel 1 Dalkeith St Barrow-N-Furness, Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England

Will remove the actual census transcript as alviegal beat me to it.

Is this his birth - there are Mullen births with both Dooley and Tooley as mmn in the area

MULLEN, JOSEPH JAMES TOOLEY
GRO Reference: 1890 J Quarter in BARROW IN FURNESS Volume 08E Page 840

Lucy Dooly
in the Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915
Name: Lucy Dooly
Gender: Female
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 8 Nov 1875
Marriage Place: Newry, Ireland, Ireland
Diocese: Dromore
Spouse: Hugh Mullan


Baptism of the son John who is on the 1891 census:

John Mullen
in the Ireland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
Name: John Mullen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 4 Dec 1876
Birth Place: Ireland
Father: Hugh Mullen
Mother: Lucy Mullen Dooley
FHL Film Number: 255969

Looking at the Joseph Mullens in London in 1921, posted by Kay????, and digging around a bit more (1921, ERs, marriages, etc) , I worked out that in 1921 he was in the household of Sir Norman Moore (1847 Broughton, Lancs) and Lady Milicent Bella Moore (1868 Guestling, Sussex).
Rose Cole (1865 Ireland) was also in the household, probably a servant, and one other person whom I haven't identified so far - possibly another servant. (In 1911 they had a housemaid and a chauffeur.)

In 1919 and 1920 the Moores were living at 67 Gloucester Place, St Marylebone, with Norman's son from his first marriage (who also became a physician, and a baronet) , so that may be where Joseph Mullens was in 1921.

(Of course we don't know if that man is Joseph James or not.)

Then I fell down a genealogy wormhole - as you do - off at a tangent:

This is nothing to do with Kelzi's search for Joseph James - but interesting (at least I think so!).

Their main home was in Whatlington, Sussex.
Sir Norman (a physician, MD FRCP) died in Sussex in 1922, and Milicent in 1947 in Hastings..

This interesting piece is about Milicent Bella's mother:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2007/nov/24/familyandrelationships.family1

and this about Norman and Milicent:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2010/jun/26/charlotte-moore-hancox-sussex


There's other online stuff about other members of the family.
For instance, Norman's son (Sir) Alan Hilary Moore, with whom they're listed in 1919 and 1920 ERs.

What amazing finds AG! I really wish I could find articles like this about members of my family, really breathes life into the names. Poor, poor Bella but what a supportive husband she had.

this one may of course be a redherring

Cumbria Marriage indexes for the years: 1946
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Year Church / Register Office Registers At Reference Add to Summary
MULLEN Joseph J MCKEOWN Isabella 1946 Barrow-in-Furness Register Office or Registrar Attended Cumbria Certificate Services C1/50/11


EDIT - ignore this. I have just found his grave and this Joseph was born 1922/3

For what it's worth -

Ancestry suggests these records for that couple:

Joseph James Mullen
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Joseph James Mullen
Death Age: 69
Birth Date: 7 Nov 1922
Registration Date: Feb 1992
Registration District: Barrow In Furness
Inferred County: Cumbria
Volume: 1
Page: 40





Isabella McKeown
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2007
Name: Isabella McKeown
Registration Date: Jul 1926[Aug 1926] [Sep 1926]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Barrow in Furness
Inferred County: Cumbria
Mother's Maiden Name: Platt
Volume Number: 8e
Page Number: 1069