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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Mar 2022 09:01

As you know the mother’s name, look for illegitimate births on freebmd

BUT……is it likely that the child would have been taken on by the woman’s husband?

Nicola

Nicola Report 19 Mar 2022 00:56

Thanks for the info, just one question. If I produce the death cert to get A record opened, do I have to specify which one of the two closed records I think is him?
I don't have much info about the rumoured birth another than between 1928 and 1932. The mother was in yorkshire in 1921 and married in Essex in 1936.
Trying to help a lady that contacted me with a DNA match with my daughter ( 0.4%) She only did the DNA test to try and find her rumoured elder half brother.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Mar 2022 23:07

Have you done anything about trying to find the rumoured birth?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 18 Mar 2022 22:56

My brother born in 1934 is a closed record because he died in Spain in2001

His death wasn’t registered at the British embassy so no way for me to get a death cert to request open

Sister born 1931 and died in 2002 is open even though no family requested it

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Mar 2022 22:17

One of the closed records seems very likely to be the child born in 1937, and as described, you can apply to have it opened if you supply the death cert.

Info here:
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/1939register/1939-register-getting-started

and here:
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/PaidSearch/FOI1939Register

But obviously, if you don't know the "rumoured" child's name, nor whether or not he/she has died, you can't have that record opened.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Mar 2022 21:22

1997 death is probably too late to have been picked up. If you wish to have the record opened, you can apply to do so, if you provide a copy of the death cert and pay a fee

Kay????

Kay???? Report 18 Mar 2022 21:10

It was agreed when the 1939 register was released those born after 1915 would not be included as they were likely to be still living,,,,,,,,hence the closed rectords,, however where notice has been found to the deaths of these persons of closed records many will be found as open records,,,,,,,,,,
The 1939 register was used in form when the NHS was formed in 1948.

You can identify the closed records by following the instructions on Findmypast site where they will require proof of death by way of death certificate image,,,,,,,,

some closed records may not be opened for those who left the UK.

usually I have found many families were listed by age,,oldest first and so ..on,but cant be taken as a fact.....

Nicola

Nicola Report 18 Mar 2022 20:58

I have found parents at correct address on 1939 register with 2 closed entries. I know they had their first child in 1937 he died in 1997. The mother is rumoured to have had a child before the marriage in 1936. Are the closed entries in age order if there is 2 in succession in a household? Assuming that 1 of the closed entries is the child born in 1937 who died in 1997 why is it closed? Is there anyway of getting anymore info from a closed entry?