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MotownGal

MotownGal Report 19 Mar 2022 09:03

Can someone help me find parents of James Henry Burton please?

I have his marriage certificate.

James Henry Burton 20 years old, Carman, Georges Road, Holloway
to
Mary (actually Mary Ann) 20 years old, Georges Road, Holloway

Married 4th April 1915. St James Church, Holloway, Islington, London.

Grooms father George Burton, Carman.

I have all the information I need on Mary Ann and her family.. She was born in Tottenham, 12 November 1894.

Her father and brother are the witnesses to the marriage.

James could have been born somewhere in London, I just need a push in the right direction.

Will not be back until later today. Thanking you in advance.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Mar 2022 09:17



James Burton
in the 1911 England Census
Name: James Burton
Age in 1911: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Tottenham, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Islington
Country: England
Street Address: 76 Landseer Road, Upper Holloway N
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Laundry Boy
Registration District Number: 10
Sub-registration District: Upper Holloway
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Piece: 814
Household Members:
Name Age
George Burton 57 - carman, Holloway
Martha Burton 57 - Highgate, Middlesex
Charles Burton 18 - Tottenham - van boy
James Burton 16 - Tottenham - laundry boy


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Mar 2022 09:18

There’s a family in Islington in 1911 with father `George, carman, mother Martha

James born 1895 is a laundry bit and there’s a older son, Charles..both born Tottenham

Address 76 Landseer Road, Upper Holloway

Look for James’s birth on the GRO which will give MMN - then look for marriage of parents


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Mar 2022 09:22

BURTON, CHARLES HENRY mmn SIMMONS
GRO Reference: 1892 D Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 318


BURTON, JAMES HENRY mmn SIMMONS
GRO Reference: 1894 D Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 318



George Burton
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936
Name: George Burton
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1874
Marriage Place: St Mary, Islington, Islington, England
Father: James Burton
Spouse: Martha Simmons [ father: William Simmons ]
Register Type: Parish Register

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 19 Mar 2022 09:28

In the 1939 register James H and Mary A are living at 17, Henningham Rd, Tottenham.

James'birthdate is recorded as 13th Aug 1894, in case it identifies a baptism or birth record.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Mar 2022 09:30

James called Harry in 1901:

Geo Burton
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Geo Burton
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Martha Burton
Birth Place: Holloway, London, England
Civil Parish: Tottenham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 2 James Terrace
Registration District: Edmonton
Sub-registration District: Tottenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 52
Neighbors:
Piece: 1254
Folio: 15
Page Number: 22
Household Schedule Number: 129
Household Members:
Name Age
Geo Burton 47 - carman, road contractor, Holloway
Martha Burton 47 - Stoke Newington
Geo Burton 22 - Kings Cross
Martha Burton 19 - Holloway
William Burton 16 - Holloway
Charley Burton 8 - Tottenham
Harry Burton 5 - Tottenham


BURTON, WILLIAM ROBERT mmn SIMMONS
GRO Reference: 1885 J Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 290

BURTON, MARTHA ANN mmn SIMMONS
GRO Reference: 1881 D Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 220

Can't see the birth of the son George.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Mar 2022 10:04

George Barton
in the 1881 England Census
Name: George Barton
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Martha H. Barton
Gender: Male
Where Born: Holloway
Civil Parish: Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 13 Edward Square
Marital status: Married
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Occupation: Carman
Registration District: Islington
Sub registration district: Islington West
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors:
Piece: 231
Folio: 17
Page Number: 32
Household Members:
Name Age
George Barton 27
Martha H. Barton 28 - Hammersmith
George W. Barton 2 - Balls Pond
Ann Price 29 - lodger, Bristol


George Burton
in the 1891 England Census
Name: George Burton
Gender: Male
Age: 40
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1851
Spouse:
Martha Burton
Child:
George Burton
William Burton
Thomas Burton
Martha Burton
Birth Place: Hackney, London, England
Civil parish: Tottenham
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Residence Place: Tottenham, Middlesex, England
Registration district: Edmonton
Sub registration district: Tottenham
ED, Institution or Vessel: 20a
Neighbors:
Piece: 1073
Folio: 78
Household Members Age Relationship
George Burton 40 Head - carman
Martha Burton 42 Wife - Stepney
George Burton 13 Son - Holloway
William Burton 10 Son - Holloway
Thomas Burton 6 Son - Holloway
Martha Burton 13 Daughter - Tottenham

Address: 27 Osmond (Ormond ?) Road

I don't see Thomas's birth.

There's this one - but wrong MMN:

BARTON, THOMAS mmn RAMPLING
GRO Reference: 1885 J Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 422

EDIT:
No, that's not him - that one's with his parents James and Harriet in Southwark in 1891 (and a Rampling uncle).

MotownGal

MotownGal Report 19 Mar 2022 11:53

Thank you so very much ArgyllGran, Erika and Kucinta.

I thought Jimmy (as he was always known) was born in Tottenham. They moved back there as it states in the 1939 Register (which I did not know) but lived there until Mary died.

The trouble with having a common surname is exactly that!

I appreciate all your endeavours, and now have a clearer idea of where I should be looking. Thank you.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Mar 2022 12:03

Strong possibility



Deaths Dec 1956
Burton James H 62 Edmonton 5e 255

Reg district covers Tottenham

And wife

Name: Mary Ann Burton
Death Age: 87
Birth Date: 12 Nov 1894
Registration Date: Jan 1982
[Feb 1982]
[Mar 1982]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Redbridge
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 14
Page: 1544

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 19 Mar 2022 15:01

Baptism had been indexed as Jane Henry Burton.

Baptised 11th Nov 1894, birthdate in margin 13th Aug 1894 at St Anns, Tottenham, Haringey.

Father George Burton a carman, mother Martha Harriett Burton.

So it all ties together nicely.

Will message baptism image as I couldn't c & p transcript on tablet

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Mar 2022 16:20

His brother Charles's baptism, just for good measure:

Charles Henry Burton
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1920
Name: Charles Henry Burton
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 11 Nov 1894
Baptism Place: St Ann, Tottenham, Haringey, England
Father: George Burton
Mother: Marth Harriett Burton
Register Type: Parish Register

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Mar 2022 16:51

Name: Martha Simmons
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 14 Dec 1854
Baptism Place: St Mary, Islington, Islington, England
Father:
William Simmons
Mother:
Sarah Simmons
Register Type: Parish Register

BURTON, GEORGE BURTON
GRO Reference: 1855 M Quarter in THE ISLINGTON DISTRICT Volume 01B Page 234


Name: George Burton
Gender: Male
Document Year: 1914
Residence Place: Holloway N
Relationship to Soldier: Father
Form Title: Military History Sheet
Number of Images: 8
Other Records:
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
Charles Henry Burton Self (Head)
George Burton Father
Martha Harriet Burton Mother

Name: George Burton
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: 1856
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Burton
Mother's Name: Phoebie Burton
Gender: Male
Where Born: Islington, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Islington St Mary
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration District: Islington
Sub-registration District: Islington East
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 180
Piece: 139
Folio: 98
Page Number: 40
Household Members:
Name Age
James Burton 43
Phoebie Burton 43
William Burton 13
Hannah Burton 11
Ellen Burton 7
George Burton 5
David Burton 4
Emma Burton 10/12

Name: Pheebe Susannah Burton
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 14 Aug 1842
Marriage Place: St Mary, Finchley, Barnet, England
Father:
James Burton
Spouse:
James Burton
Register Type: Parish Register

MotownGal

MotownGal Report 19 Mar 2022 17:02

Just came back on again.

Thank you Shirley, Kacinta, ArgyllGran and Maddie.

Wow, I am doing great guns!

I appreciate all you have found out for me. More than I could have hoped for.

Thanks again!

MotownGal

MotownGal Report 20 Mar 2022 07:57

Once again, appreciate all the help given.

Best Wishes.