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Hello, on FMP index for British Merchant Seamen 1918-1941 is Pio Santos born 1877. Could I please have the details of what is says. He is also on the British Armed Forces and Overseas Deaths and Burials for 1928 and for location it says Dalegarth, At Sea. I think this may mean he died at sea. Could I also have the details for that entry. Thank you.

You need to get the death cert for its info

name(s) Pio
Card type CR1
Last name Santos
Archive The National Archives
Birth year 1877
Series BT349
Birth date ? ? 1877
Date range 1921-1941
Birth place St Vincent
Record set Britain, Merchant Seamen, 1918-1941
Birth county/country Cape Verde
Category Education & work
Event year 1921
Subcategory Merchant Navy & Maritime
Discharge number 288654
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
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First name(s) Pio
Type At Sea
Last name Santos
Vessel name Dalegarth
Birth year 1877
Source Deaths At Sea 1891 – 1972
Birth date 1877
Archive The National Archives
Birth place St Vincent Verde Socands Porsuguere
Archive reference BT 334
Age 51
Box 0086
Death year 1928
Page 227
Death date 24 Jun 1928
Record set British Armed Forces And Overseas Deaths And Burials
Death place At Sea
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Place Dalegarth
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
County At Sea
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
Country At Sea

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Order from the GRO specifying overseas cert needed

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name(s) Pio
County Durham
Last name Dos Santos
Country England
Marriage quarter 1
Volume 10A
Marriage year 1922
Volume as transcribed 10A
Registration month -
Page number 200
MarriageFinder™ Pio Dos Santos married one of these people
Ellen Sweeney
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Spouse's last name Sweeney
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Hartlepool
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
District number -
Collections from Great Britain, England

Thank you very much Shirley for the above. Much appreciated.

Hello Shirley, I am going to send for the marriage certificate and hope it has his father's name. Thank you.

just for info in case
a tree on ancestry but unsourced

Pio Luis dos Santos

Birth 21 JUN 1875 • Ribeira Brava, Sao Nicolau, Cape Verde

Death 24 JUN 1928 • Died At Sea ( Casablanca) Merchant Navy


father
Luis Antonio Dos Santos
Birth 18 SEP 1860 • Cape Verde


mother
Antonia Ana Do Rosario

Birth 1847 • Cape Verde
Death 29/09/1919

grandparents

Jose Cristivai dos Santos Dos Santos
Birth 1835 • Cape Verde
death 1913 • Cape Verde

Amelia da Graca Pinto
Birth Unknown
Death 17 JUN 1974

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Cristovao A dos Santos
Gertrudes dos Reis Lopes
1800–1887 Caoe Verde

Hello Maddie, thank you for the above. I have sent for Pio's marriage certificate which says it will arrive approximately 21 April so I will know if the father's details above are correct, that's if the father is mentioned on the certificate.

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27 July 1923 - Hartlepool Nort FELL INTO HOLD. LOCAL SHIP’S FIREMAN AND HIS COMPENSATION. To-day, at the West Hartlepool County Court, before Judge Moore. Pio Santos, a ship'-, tireman, of Burbank Street, claimed compensation from Messrs. Sharp Bros., of Newcastle, the owners the s.e.
27 July 1923 - Hartlepool Northern Daily Mail - Hartlepool, Durham, Englandhern Daily Mail - Hartlepool, Durham, England.

same person.?

And again - same person ??


P Santos
in the New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name: P Santos
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Portuguese
Age: 47
Birth Date: abt 1875
Arrival Date: 15 Jul 1922
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: Limon

Fireman

?? in 1921:

Pia
Santos
1876
—
West Hartlepool
Hartlepool
Durham

With
David Moon Davison 1886 [ 1916 marriage and other records say Moore ] , Katherine Davison 1877 [ spelled Catherine in 1939, marriage and other records - nee McKay/MacKay ] ,
Lawrence McKay 1904,
and 7 others.

David Moore Davison's probate record in 1957 gives his address as 104 Burbank Street - as in the newspaper article posted above

Hello Kay and Argyll, thank you for the above, it all adds a bit of background to his life. He married Ellen Sweeney in 1922 who was a widow, had three children and then died in 1928. They probably didn't see much of him if he was on board ship for most of the time. Just waiting for their marriage certificate to see if I can tie in the information above off Ancestry. Although with many of the trees on Ancestry, never sure if the details are correct. Thank you again.

He died 24/06/28 on board the Dalegarth lat 42 48N long 9 59 W. He was 51, a fireman and trimmer born St Vincent, Cape Verde Islands but Portuguese nationality. Last place of abode was 3 Back Frederick St, W Hartlepool and he died of heart failure and extreme weakness and ulcer in back.


British Armed Forces And Overseas Deaths And Burials

Hello Alviegal, thank you, is the above off Ancestry? No need for me to buy the death certificate, thanks again.

I don't know where Alviegal got the above record from but the same record is on Findmypast.

As it happens one of my uncles used to live at 5 Frederick Street, so his family may have known Pio. (my uncle wasn't born until 1929 so wouldn't have known him himself).

Kath. x

Yes I got it off Findmypast.

Hello both. Kathleen how weird is that, what a coincidence. I can't believe how much information on Pio has come to light considering he was from Cape Verde. I now eagerly await his marriage certificate to see if the tree on Ancestry is remotely correct. I had a look on family search which has parish records for Cape Verde most of which seem to be burials.