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Hills/Wood to the Gardner/Boormans

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Delboy1978

Delboy1978 Report 22 Apr 2022 11:28

Hi All

Hoping someone can help or point me in the right direction.

On Ancestry and My Heritage I have approx 30 plus DNA Matches with no apparent links, common ancestor and none of their names matched. However through researching their trees and a bit of detective work I created a new tree and through the most common relationship via DNA Painter worked out that all leads led to

Josiah Gardner B1815 and his wife Louisa Boorman B 1920, they had 10 children. Most of the DNA Matches stem from this couple and 6 matches stem from Louisa's sister.

After a bit of detective work i have found a link to one of the children of this couple.

Their youngest son George Gardner B1864 married an Emily Connery in 1906

Emily had been married before to a Samuel Connery who died in 1902, They had one son and one daughter who both died in childhood before 1901

Emily maiden name was Hills, born 1865 and is my Great Grand Aunt.

I have the marriage Banns for Emily C and George G confirming father was George Hills (he died in 1905)

in 1911, George and Emily where living with Mary Hills, Emily's mother who is my GG Grandmother.

Emily was 43 when she married George Gardner and I have found no evidence they had any children which would confirm a DNA link to the Gardner/Boorman family.

According to the 1881 Census George Gardner was visiting my Great Grand Parents Harriet (Hills) and Edward Wood! Sister of Emily, this maybe how they met! I have scenarios in my head that a child was born around this time which George fathered, either by Harriet or Emily. Emily would have been 15/16 around this time.

According to 1891 census, Harriet had a child born 1st March 1881 Florence Harriet Wood but wasnt baptised until 1886. Why would they wait 5 years??

I cant seem to find her birth record either other than the baptism stated above.

There is a link to the family but just cant find the DNA link.. :-S

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Apr 2022 13:02

For our reference, for LOCATION:

George Gardener
in the 1881 England Census
Name: George Gardener
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relationship to Head: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where Born: Shoreditch
Civil Parish: Shoreditch
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 16 Poole Street
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Boot Press Worker
Registration District: Shoreditch
Sub registration district: Hoxton Old Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors:
Piece: 397
Folio: 63
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Wood 24 - Smardon, Kent
Harriett Wood 20 - Shoreditch
George Gardener 18

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Apr 2022 13:12

and the 1881 child:


Florence Wood
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Florence Wood
Gender: Female
Age: 10
Relationship: Daughter
Birth Year: 1881
Father: Edward Wood
Mother: Harriett Wood
Birth Place: Shoreditch, London, England
Civil parish: Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: St Columb
Residence Place: Shoreditch, London, England
Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub registration district: Haggerston
ED, Institution or Vessel: 3
Neighbors:
Piece: 251
Folio: 67
Household Members Age Relationship
Edward Wood 35 Head - Fleadcom, Hampshire - carman
Harriett Wood 28 Wife - Hackney
Florence Wood 10 Daughter
Ellen Wood 7 Daughter
Edward Wood 5 Son
Lilian Wood 1 Daughter


Her birth (??? - middle name not Harriet ??):

WOOD, FLORENCE ANN mmn HILLS
GRO Reference: 1881 J Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 90

Siblings:


WOOD, EDWARD ROBERT mmn HILLS
GRO Reference: 1886 M Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 39

WOOD, ELLEN MARY ANN mmn HILLS
GRO Reference: 1883 S Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 147

WOOD, EMILY LILIAN mmn HILLS
GRO Reference: 1890 M Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 40

Delboy1978

Delboy1978 Report 22 Apr 2022 13:19

Thanks for this information.

Harriett is given on her Baptism record of 1896 and the marriage records too that how I have come to it

alviegal

alviegal Report 22 Apr 2022 13:19

Florence Hamiltt Wood
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 1 Mar 1881
Birth Place: England
Baptism Date: 25 Feb 1886
Baptism Place: St Leonards Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Father:
Edward Wood
Mother:
Harriett Sophia
FHL Film Number: 396247


and her marriage.

Name: Florence Harriett Wood
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1881
Marriage Date: 5 Oct 1902
Marriage Place: St Mary, Haggerston, Hackney, England
Father:
Edward Wood
Spouse:
Walter Henry Alexander
Register Type: Parish Register

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Apr 2022 13:20

Her christening:

Florence Hamiltt Wood
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Florence Hamiltt Wood
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 1 Mar 1881
Birth Place: England
Baptism Date: 25 Feb 1886
Baptism Place: St Leonards Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Father: Edward Wood
Mother: Harriett Sophia
FHL Film Number: 396247

Perhaps they changed their minds about her middle name between birth and baptism ??


Although she married as Florence Harriet, she's back to Florence Ann when her death was registered:

ALEXANDER, FLORENCE ANN 51
GRO Reference: 1932 J Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 80



Children were often not baptised until a few years after their birth.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Apr 2022 13:25

Brother Edward's baptism:

Edward Robert Wood
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1920
Name: Edward Robert Wood
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 25 Feb 1886 <<<<<<<<<
Baptism Place: St Leonard, Shoreditch, Hackney, England
Father: Edward Wood
Mother: Harriett Sophia Wood
Register Type: Parish Register
DOB: 15 Dec 1885

Ellen Mary was also baptised on the same day. (Born 21 July 1884, per the baptism record - although actually born 1883)

It was quite common for parents to have children baptised in batches.
Perhaps when Edward was born, they thought they might as well have all the children baptised. Maybe they just hadn't got round to it earlier!

Delboy1978

Delboy1978 Report 22 Apr 2022 13:27

ok, this is good thanks. So it we do have the birth record. Thank you for this

alviegal

alviegal Report 22 Apr 2022 13:31

Florence Harriet was born 3 March 1881, Edward Robert b 15 Dec 1885.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Apr 2022 14:51

Louisa Boorman is in a couple of GR trees - neither of them yours
Josiah Gardner is also in one of them