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JENKINS family, - 1911

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Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 12 Jun 2022 07:52

Thank you too to ArgyllGran and greyghost for your valued opinions.
I think you have all sorted what must have happened.

Although confusing, when we look back at the census, it was perhaps a way of saying that a much-loved son was still part of their family.
Trevor was obviously spoken about in the family, as my mother ( not born at the time of 1911 census) knew about him as a member of her extended family and the sadness of Lizzie and John losing 2 sons very young.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 11 Jun 2022 14:45

The death of the later son John Calvert Jenkins:-

First name(s) John C
District Bridgend
Last name Jenkins
County Glamorganshire
Gender Male
Volume 11A
Birth day -
Page 788
Birth month -
Country Wales
Birth year 1915
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Age 5
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Death quarter 3
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Death year 1920
Collections from Great Britain, Wales

Kath. x

greyghost

greyghost Report 11 Jun 2022 12:54

Looks like the children were listed in the order that they were born but Richard was shown as aged 1 acknowledging the age at death by parents (he would have been 4 if he lived so correct order of births) and just not crossed through by the enumerator.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Jun 2022 10:55

Re the 3 things which the enumerator has declared correct -

the only bit in doubt is "After making the necessary inquiries I have completed all entries. . . . which appeared to be defective . . . " .

He has certainly corrected the entries re the length of marriage and numbers of children , in that he's moved them against the wife's name and not the husband's.
Perhaps he was distracted by that, so that it didn't occur to him that there were four children's names listed.

He was probably in a hurry to finish his allotted number of households.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 11 Jun 2022 10:41

I know for a fact that the girls lived., so I think you're right.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 11 Jun 2022 10:30

Thank you for your thoughts, Kath and Belle.
I too think that is what must have happened, although they acknowledge that one child has died, when giving the number of live births etc. after Elizabeth's name.

What threw me a bit was the left hand side declaration at the bottom of the page from the enumerator saying the information was correct.

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 11 Jun 2022 10:26

I agree with Kath. The 1911 Census also states that four children were born alive but only three are living, yet there are four children listed on the Census :-)

Edit
On the actual image the children are listed as
Bertha Jane 5
Richard Trevor 1
Inez 2
Gwyneth 8nths

This, I feel, further confirms Kath's theory :-)

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 11 Jun 2022 08:28

This is the death of the one born in 1907:-

First name(s) Richard William T
District Bridgend
Last name Jenkins
County Glamorganshire
Gender Male
Volume 11A
Birth day -
Page 604
Birth month -
Country Wales
Birth year 1907
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Age 1
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Death quarter 1
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Death year 1908
Collections from Great Britain, Wales

This matches with the burial you found.

The address on the burial record is Elm Cottage, Wick.

I think the parents just named all of their children in the order they were born and gave the one that died the age he was when he died.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 11 Jun 2022 08:19

Do you think it is possible that the parents named all of their children (whether dead or alive) even though they shouldn't have named those who had died, and they gave him the age he was when he died.

There was another child on the 1911 census who was 2 and another one who was 8 months, so there wasn't really time in between to have a one year old child.

Kath. x

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 11 Jun 2022 07:56

Could someone please take a look at a Jenkins family in 1911 and help me sort out their children?

I'm looking at the family of John Jenkins married to Elizabeth ( nee SKERRETT ) who are living in Victoria Street, Pontycymmer, Glamorgan, which comes under Bridgend Registration district.

My query is about the child Richard Trevor

1911
Benjamin Evans 37...... a visitor
John Jenkins 27....b. Wick
Elizabeth Jenkins 25 ...b. Madley, Herefordshire
Bertha Jane Jenkins 5
Inez Jenkins 2
Richard Trevor Jenkins 1 ...<<<<<<<<
Gwyneth Jenkins 8/12

I can't see a GRO birth for Richard or any other Jenkins / Skerrett child to match this person.
Some Ancestry trees have recorded a child born and died in 1910 :-S :-S and another tree has a child born 1906, but he would not then be 1 in 1911.

I have looked on PR images on Ancestry for the villages of Wick and Monknash in Glamorgan, as that is where I know for a fact that I visited the family, when I was young.
Recorded in the burials in Wick is Richard William Trevor JENKINS of Wick aged 1 year buried 1st March 1908.
This ties with a GRO index birth entry for a matching male child in March Q 1907.

Was another son born and similarly named before 1911 census?

I remember being told by family members that 'Trevor died young' and indeed the family also lost another later son, Calvin, (GRO John C. b.1915) but was that this child in PRs ?

Any help gratefully received.... Thank you.