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Lucy Ann Rees ( Pontypridd )

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Dianna

Dianna Report 1 Dec 2022 18:00

Can You assist me in tracing two marriage records for the above subject,the first is dated 1896 and the second 1910.If possible I would like to find the name of the spouse in each case. I really appreciate your help.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Dec 2022 18:19

Have you tried freebmd because that’s the first place to look

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Dec 2022 18:24

A tree on ancestry has this

Spouse Thomas Jenkins
Father William Peter Rees
Mother Ann Davies
Children Herbert
Birth Oct 1877 Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales
Death Jun 1934 Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales
Residence 02 Apr 1911 Gelligaer, Glamorgan, W

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Dec 2022 18:27

Look’s possibly a double wedding

Marriages Jun 1910 (>99%)
Edwards Mary Jane Pontypridd 11a 934 Scan available - click to view
GRIFFITHS Thomas Pontypridd 11a 934 Scan available - click to view
REES Lucy Ann Pontypridd 11a 934 Scan available - click to view
REES William Henry Pontypridd 11a 934 Scan available - click to view

So if William was a brother then her spouse was likely Thomas Griffiths

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Dec 2022 19:08

Lucy Ann Rees
 in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Lucy Ann Rees
Registration Year: 1896
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Pontypridd
Inferred County: Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 825
Records on Page:
Name
Mary Elizabeth Jakeman
Thomas Jenkins
Lucy Ann Rees
William Thomas


Mary Elizabeth Jakeman married William Thomas, therefore Lucy Ann married Thomas Jenkins.



Mary Elizabeth Thomas
 in the 1911 Wales Census
Name: Mary Elizabeth Thomas
[Mary Elizabeth Jakeman] 
Age in 1911: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Eglwysilan, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Eglwysilan
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: Castle Road Tongwynlais
Marital status: Married
Years Married: 15
Estimated Marriage Year: 1896
Occupation: Dress Maker
Registration District: Pontypridd
Registration District Number: 589
Sub-registration District: Eglwysilan
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Household Schedule Number: 97
Piece: 32228
Household Members:
Name Age
John Jakeman 58 - head
Ewart Thomas 12 - nephew
Ann Jakeman 64 - wife
John Samuel Jakeman 30 - son [ entry scored out ]
Mary Elizabeth Thomas 37 - daughter, married
Maria Morgan 35 - daughter , married [ entry scored out ]
Thomas James Jakeman 27 so, married [entry scored out ]
Sarah Jakeman 25 - daughter
Ethel Jakeman 21 - daughter
William Henry Jakeman 16 - son

Dianna

Dianna Report 1 Dec 2022 19:36

Hi,thank you for your help,I did see the 1910 wedding info on Ancestry but could not find details of the 1896 event. I was wondering if she was a widow and that would explain the 1910 wedding.If I can establish who the husband was in 1896 it would solve a question I have with relatives in Canada .I really appreciate your help.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Dec 2022 20:07

Maybe it’s two different Lucy .s

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Dec 2022 20:17

1901 census

Name: Thomas Jenkins
Age in 1901: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Head
Spouse: Lucy A Jenkins
Gender: Male
Where born: Wilton Bsh, Durham, England
[Witton Park Durham England]
Civil parish: Pontypridd
Search Photos:
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Town: Cilfynydd
Ecclesiastical parish: Eglwysilan
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub-registration district: Eglwysilan
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 289
Piece: 4997
Folio: 124
Page number: 49
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Thomas Jenkins 30 Head
Lucy A Jenkins
23 Wife
Josiah C Jenkins
1 Son
William P Jenkins
1 Son



1911 census
Name: Lucy Ann Jenkins
Age in 1911: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Gelligaer
Search Photos: Search for 'Gelligaer' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: 31 Henry St Bargoed
Marital status: Married
Years Married: 14
Estimated Marriage Year: 1897
Registration District: Merthyr Tydfil
Registration District Number: 590
Sub-registration District: Gelligaer
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household Schedule Number: 174
Piece: 32415
Household Members:
Name Age
Lucy Ann Jenkins 33
Phyllis Jenkins 7
Beryl Jenkins 5
Muriel Jenkins 4
Herbert Jenkins 3


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Dec 2022 22:07

If she had been a widow, the normal procedure would be to re-marry under her first married name.

What do you know about the one in whom you are interested?

Birth year? Names of parents?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 2 Dec 2022 08:52

The first Lucy was still married in 1911 as Jenkins so can’t be the same one who married in 1910

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Dec 2022 09:35

This looks like the Lucy who married in 1910:

Lucy Ann Griffiths
 in the 1911 Wales Census
Name: Lucy Ann Griffiths
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Blaenycwm, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Rhondda
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: 40 Margaret St Tynewydd Treherbert
Marital status: Married
Years Married: 1
Estimated Marriage Year: 1910
Registration District: Pontypridd
Registration District Number: 589
Sub-registration District: Rhondda
ED, institution, or vessel: 04
Household Schedule Number: 41
Piece: 32332
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Griffiths 32
Lucy Ann Griffiths 24

Dianna

Dianna Report 2 Dec 2022 14:04

Thank you everyone who responded to my Question from the information you supplied I have been able to prove that Lucy Ann Rees is not part of the family tree as shown on Ancestry.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Dec 2022 20:37

Lucy’s birthplace according to 1881 census was actually Llanwonno

She was 3 years old in 1881

In 1891, she was said to have been born in Hopkinstown

By 1901, she was not living with her parents

Dianna

Dianna Report 7 Dec 2022 20:07

Hopkinstown is in the Parish ofm Llanwonno Glamorgan.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Dec 2022 20:23

I know………. ;-) ;-)