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William Willis b. 1870 Plymouth

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Shirley

Shirley Report 19 Mar 2023 10:10

Hi —
Anyone know of this 'William'?
Second son of Elizabeth. Chaffe & James Willis.
Siblings: James 1867, Alfred 1874, Florence 1876, and John 1881.
Disappears by 1881 census with no trace of early death.

Shirley

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 19 Mar 2023 10:30

No one is going to ‘know of this William’

What you are actually asking is for someone to look into his whereabouts.
Have you tried looking to see if someone has them on their tree via the Search/ allmembers trees button.
Living in Plymouth have you considered that he might have joined the Navy, although I,m not sure they would have taken boys quite that young.

Added: there is a William Willis born 1870 Plymouth in the 1901& 1911 census living with his wife, Mary, in Plymouth.

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 Mar 2023 10:59

Are you wanting help to find William

Your family 1871 ? - for our info

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Cattedown, Charles, Plymouth, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Willis Head - Male 29 1842 - -
Elizabeth Willis Wife - Female 22 1849 - Devon, England
James Henry Willis Son - Male 3 1868 - Devon, England
William Willis Son - Male 1 1870 - Devon, England
Emma Willmott Chaffe Servant - Female 19 1852 - Devon, England
Bessie Chaffe Child nurse - Female 0 1871 - Devon, England

James a Quarryman and Elizabeth both b Yealmpton
Children b Cattledown

? William's birth - unable to open GRO site at present to check mmn - anyone else having a problem?
Births Mar 1870 (>99%)
WILLIS William Plymouth 5b 259

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 Mar 2023 11:03

Same family 1881 - James shown as John?

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
5, Higher Street, Plymouth Charles, Plymouth, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Willis Head Married Male 37 1844 Labourer gen Plymouth, Devon, England
Elizabeth Willis Wife Married Female 32 1849 - Plymouth, Devon, England
James Willis Son Single Male 15 1866 Labourer gen Plymouth, Devon, England
Alfred Willis Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar Plymouth, Devon, England
Florence Willis Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Plymouth, Devon, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Mar 2023 11:23

Elizabeth Chaffe is in trees other than yours - contact the ‘owners’ to find out if they can shed light on your quest

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 Mar 2023 12:01

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1866 (>99%)
WILLIS James Plymouth 5b 439

Baptisms - Florence and John not shown on FMP

First name(s) Last name Birth year Baptism year Father's first name(s) Mother's first name(s) Baptism place
James Henry Willis 1867 1867James Elizabeth of Cattledown Father a Labourer
Sutton on Plym, St John b 27.4.1867 Bap. 26.5.1867

William Willis 1870 1873 James Elizabeth of Cattledown Father a Porter
Plymouth, Holy Trinity & St Saviour b 8.1.1870 Bap. 10.1.1873 with Frederick (below)

Fredrick John Willis 1872 1873 James Elizabeth of Catledown Father a Porter
Plymouth, Holy Trinity & St Saviour b 13.12.1872 Bap. 10.1.1873

Alfred Ernest Willis 1874 1874 James Elizabeth Ann of Cattledown. Father a Waterman
Plymouth, Holy Trinity & St Saviour b 26.7.1874 Bap. 11.8.1874

Residence, Father's occupation and full Dates from original

--------------------------
Frederick John died aged 8 prior to the 1881 census
Deaths Mar 1881 (>99%)
Willis Frederick John 8 Plymouth 5b 182



ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Mar 2023 17:44

Greyghost -
I haven't been able to get into the GRO site for several hours today either.

At first it just didn't open. Now there's only a "Service Announcement" from the Passport Office, saying they're performing scheduled maintenance - but no way to access anything else on the site.

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 Mar 2023 18:13

Scheduled maintenance covers a multitude of sins no doubt !

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Mar 2023 18:38

Better to have scheduled maintenance with a fixed time-scale rather than an unmaintained site crashing for an indefinite period ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Mar 2023 19:57

And it's back!

WILLIS, WILLIAM mmn CHAFFE
GRO Reference: 1870 M Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 259

Maddie

Maddie Report 20 Mar 2023 13:07

????
Willm
Country England
Last name Willis
Book type Admissions
Birth year 1870
Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office
Birth date 08 Jan 1870
Archive reference 1528/2
Age -
Folio -
Event year 1877
Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914
Admission date 12 Mar 1877
Category Education & work
School name St John's School
Subcategory Schools & Education
Town Plymouth
Collections from England, Great Britain
County Devon


address 3 commercial road

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Mar 2023 17:12

Going back to the William Willis c1870 in the 1901 and 1911 censuses, mentioned earlier by Nameslessone:

Your William Willis is the only one born (registered) in Plymouth between 1866 and 1875, so that looks like good bet.

Can't see him in 1881 or 1891.

.William Willis
in the 1901 England Census
Name: William Willis
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Mary Willis
Birth Place: Plymouth, Devon, England
Civil parish: Plymouth
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Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist
Town: Plymouth
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Plymouth
Sub-registration district: Charles
ED, institution, or vessel: 06
Neighbors:
Piece: 2092
Folio: 15
Page number: 21
Household schedule number: 131
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
William Willis 32 Head
Mary Willis 33 Wife
William Willis 3 Son
James Willis 1 Son



William Willis
in the 1911 England Census
Name: William Willis
Age in 1911: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation to Head: Husband
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Plymouth, Devon
Civil Parish: Plymouth
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street Address: 83 Clare Buildings, Plymouth
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Coal Porter
Registration District Number: 276
Sub-registration District: Plymouth South East
ED, institution, or vessel: 03
Piece: 12961
Household Members:
Name Age
William Willis 40
Mary Willis 43
William Willis 13
James Willis 11
Jhon Willis 9
Fred Willis 7
Alfred Willis 4
Philip Willis 4/12


WILLIS, ALFRED mmn SMITH
GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 225

WILLIS, HENRY PHILIP mmn SMITH
GRO Reference: 1910 D Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 203

WILLIS, FREDERICK mmn SMITH
GRO Reference: 1903 S Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 198

WILLIS, FREDERICK JOHN mmn SMITH
GRO Reference: 1902 M Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 181

WILLIS, JAMES FREDERICK mmn SMITH
GRO Reference: 1899 D Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 199

WILLIS, WILLIAM JOHN mmn SMITH
GRO Reference: 1897 S Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 207


1921 census:

William
Willis
1869
Plymouth, Devon, England
Plymouth
Plymouth
Devon

With May 1869, John 1902, Alfred 1906. and William 1897..


I don't see a marriage for William and Mary/May, which is a pity, as there might have been records with father's name to help verify if this is the right William or not.
1911 census claims they'd been married 20 years.


???
Deaths Dec 1931 (>99%)
Willis William 61 Plymouth 5b 326

??
WILLIS, PHILIP 0
GRO Reference: 1911 S Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 323

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Mar 2023 14:29

Mary and son William in 1939 - same address as in 1911;

Mary Willis
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Mary Willis
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Widow
Birth Date: 9 Jan 1865
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 83 Clare Buildings
Residence Place: Plymouth, Devon, England
Occupation: Pensioner
Line Number: 6
Schedule Number: 114
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: Wekj
Borough: Plymouth
Registration district: 276/2
Household Members (Name) Age
Mary Willis 74
William Willis 42 - 31 May 1897, H M Dockyard No 27068


??? - going by age in censuses, rather than in 1939:

Deaths Sep 1940 (>99%)
Willis Mary 72 Plymouth 5b 751