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Hi - on 17 December 1802, Joseph Barrow married Alice Walch in Bolton-le-Moors.

Alice was a widow, having married William Walch on 18 September 1799, also at Bolton-le-Moors.

She was born Alice Lomax.

I'm trying to ascertain who her parents were. On the presumption(!) that she was 21 when she married, it leaves eight possible choices between 1764 and 1778.

The most recent would be 15 February 1778 to parents of James and Alice.

The previous choice of baptism, at St Peters, Bolton-le-Moor, is 31 December 1777, to parents of John and Ann.

Thank you

Phil

It can be very difficult to be sure who parents are.

Why have you ‘decided’ she was 21 when she married? Do you have her death with a suggested age at that time.

Look into naming patterns - that might lead you in a direction.

I presumed - which is a no-no. I was hoping someone could give me a hint that I was unaware of.

Death - why didn't i think of that? I cannot find a burial, c/o OPC or find her in the census.

Last child was baptised in November 1825.

Children, in order, were: Samuel, Robert, Benjamin, Ralph, Sarah, Jno, Ann, Joseph, James, Betty.

Have you looked at LOMAX wills in case her parents named her in theirs?

'To my daughter Ann, now the wife of..........'

Are these online?

Just because it came up
Betty Barrow
in the Lancashire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1911
Name Betty Barrow
Baptism Date 20 Nov 1825
Parish Bolton-le-Moors, Lancashire, England
Father Joseph Barrow
Mother Alice Barrow
Register Type Bishop's Transcripts
Reference Number Drm/2/22a

So looks like William Walch died soon after the marriage

Name Willm. Walch
Gender Male
Death Date abt 1800
Burial Date 24 Apr 1800
Burial Place Bolton-Le-Moors, Lancashire, England
FHL Film Number 1966744
Reference ID It2 Bolton Apr 1800


Name William Walch
Gender Male
Marriage Date 18 Sep 1799
Marriage Place Bolton-Le-Moors, Lancashire, England
Spouse
Alice Lomax
FHL Film Number 1966475
Reference ID item 3

Looks like they had a son

Name Willm Walch
Event Type Baptism
Baptism Date 14 Sep 1800
Baptism Place Bolton-le-Moors, St Peter, Lancashire, England
Parish as it Appears Turton
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map
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Father
Willm Walch
Mother
Alice Walch
Reference Number L243/1/2/2



It’s not finding her age or parents though !

From LanOPC

Baptism: 17 Jan 1771 Bank Street Unitarian Protestant Dissenters, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Alice Lomax - Daughter of James Lomax & Mary
Born: 3 Oct 1770
Abode: Bolton
Baptised by: Revd. Philip Holland
Register: Baptisms 1754 - 1788, Page 49, Entry 673
Source: LDS Film 560877

Baptism: 5 Dec 1773 Bank Street Unitarian Protestant Dissenters, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Alice Lomax? - Daughter of James Lomax? & Anne
Born: 25 Nov 1773
Abode: Bolton
Notes: [Last letter of the surname is obscured]
Baptised by: Revd. Philip Holland
Register: Baptisms 1754 - 1788, Page 64, Entry 805
Source: LDS Film 560877


Baptism: 2 Apr 1775 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Alice Lomax - Daughter of James Lomax & Mary
Abode: GB
Register: Baptisms 1774 - 1778
Source: LDS Family Search

Baptism: 4 Feb 1776 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Alice Lomax - Daughter of Richd. Lomax & Martha
Abode: Harwd
Register: Baptisms 1774 - 1778
Source: LDS Family Search

Baptism: 28 Jul 1776 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Alice Lomax - Daughter of John Lomax & Catharine
Abode: Breight
Register: Baptisms 1774 - 1778
Source: LDS Family Search

Baptism: 31 Dec 1777 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Alice Lomax - Daughter of John Lomax & Ann
Abode: GB
Register: Baptisms 1774 - 1778
Source: LDS Family Search

Baptism: 15 Feb 1778 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Alice Lomax - Daughter of James Lomax & Alice
Abode: LB
Register: Baptisms 1774 - 1778
Source: LDS Family Search

Baptism: 1 Mar 1779 Bank Street Unitarian Protestant Dissenters, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Alice Lomax - Daughter of Smasho Lomax & Esther
Born: 5 Feb 1779
Abode: Bolton
Notes: [Father's firstname is probably a diminutive of Smallshaw]
Baptised by: Revd. Philip Holland
Register: Baptisms 1754 - 1788, Page 89, Entry 1066
Source: LDS Film 560877

As she married in a CofE Church, one can probably rule out the non-CofE records

As both her marriages were at St Peters, and most of her children were baptised there, there seems a good chance that her baptism would have been, too.

Thank you all. Yes, I'd like to think she was baptised at St Peter. Strange that I can't find a death for her. Surely she didn't marry again?

I KNEW this rang bells

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1382675

How embarrassing...!!!!! I've had a 3 year break from the research and had just forgotten about this thread!!! Dear oh dear.

Thank you so much Erika.

Choice of two then. Brilliant stuff. I just ignore if the names are wrong....

It can happen to anyone....................... ;-) ;-)