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Elleanor Davidson & Joseph Wilson Census

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Jul 2023 18:39

That would be ‘other’ Eleanor, nee Anderson.....unfortunately :-( :-(

Kay????

Kay???? Report 12 Jul 2023 18:24

Deaths Jun 1899 (>99%)
Wilson Ellen 80 Wigton 10b 358 ---giving a birth avg year as 1819/1820.

Ancestry suggested records vary her name from Eleanor to Ellen."and point to the found records with Sarah Ann Wilson...

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Jul 2023 11:18

Sarah Ann Wilson mentioned above married HEWER...purely for INFO, as she is in no way relevant to the enquiry

Name Ellen Wilson
Age 61
Estimated Birth Year abt 1820
Relationship to Head Wife
Spouse Joseph Wilson
Gender Female
Where born Abbey Holm, Cumberland, England
Civil parish Caldbeck
County/Island Cumberland
Country England
Street Address Ratten Row
Marital Status Married
Registration district Wigton
ED, institution, or vessel 5
Neighbors View others on page
Piece 5169
Folio 50
Page number 6
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Joseph Wilson 57 Head
Ellen Wilson 61 Wife
Sarah Ann Heever 28 Daughter
Annie Heever 7 Daughter
Ellen Heever 5 Daughter

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Jul 2023 22:22

For elimination:

The family with Sarah Ann Wilson is definitely the wrong one.

Sarah in 1871 census was born in Caldbeck.
Here she is in 1861:

Sarah A Wilson
in the 1861 England Census
Name Sarah A Wilson
Gender Female
Age 8
Relation Daughter
Estimated Birth Year 1853
Mother's Name Ellen Wilson
Where born Caldbeck, Cumberland, England
Civil parish Caldbeck Low
County/Island Cumberland
Country England
Registration district Wigton
Sub-registration district Caldbeck
ED, institution, or vessel 6
Neighbors
Household schedule number 38
Piece 3930
Folio 63
Page number 8
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Ellen Wilson 40 Head - married, Agricultural labourer's wife
Jonathan Wilson 14 Son
Elizabeth Wilson 12 Daughter
Sarah A Wilson 8 Daughter


WILSON, JONATHAN mmn ANDERSON
GRO Reference: 1846 D Quarter in WIGTON Volume 25 Page 171

WILSON, ELIZABETH mmn ANDERSON
GRO Reference: 1848 S Quarter in WIGTON Volume 25 Page 191

Can't see Sarah's birth.

Sarah Ann Wilson
in the UK and Ireland, Find a Grave® Index, 1300s-Current
Name Sarah Ann Wilson
Gender Female
Birth Date 1853
Death Date 6 Jun 1929
Cemetery St. Kentigern Churchyard
Burial or Cremation Place Caldbeck, Allerdale Borough, Cumbria, England
Has Bio? N
Father Joseph Wilson
Mother Ellen Wilson

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 11 Jul 2023 21:40

Freebmd give them as Davison and Wilson. Probably some mistranscriptions but Davison and Davidson are often written either way.

Marcus

Marcus Report 11 Jul 2023 21:01

According to Ancestry - Eleanor Davison (Not Davidson ! ) married Joseph Wison 4t November 1843, Wigton....

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Jul 2023 20:56

You say the marriage was in 1843. A girl aged 18 in 1871 would have been born c1852/3

Marcus

Marcus Report 11 Jul 2023 20:55

Just checked GRO site for Eleanors death - NOT her

She is aged 0 years!

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Jul 2023 20:50

There’s a death on freebmd in 1864 in Cockermouth for Eleanor Wilson. Check GRO site for the age, unless you’ve already ascertained age at death

Marcus

Marcus Report 11 Jul 2023 20:45

Thanks, Kay.

A possibility for sure but the age of Joseph is 10 years out and don't know about the daughter as she isn't on previous censuses.

She could be a daughter of a previous marriage if there was one....??

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 11 Jul 2023 20:44

So that is the 1871 census. Probably not the same people as Joseph was a shoe maker and there is no sign of a child in 1861.

Kay????

Kay???? Report 11 Jul 2023 20:39


Name Ellenor Wilson
Age 51
Estimated Birth Year 1820
Relation Wife
Gender Female
Where born Holm Cultram, Cumberland, England
Civil parish Caldbeck Low
Town Rattenrow
County/Island Cumberland
Country England
Registration district Wigton
Sub-registration district Caldbeck
ED, institution, or vessel 5
Household schedule number 13
Piece 5232
Folio 49
Page number 3
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Joseph Wilson
47 Head
Ellenor Wilson 51 Wife
Sarah Ann Wilson
18 Daughter

?

Joseph is a lead miner.

Marcus

Marcus Report 11 Jul 2023 20:36

So, maybe they went to USA??

greyghost

greyghost Report 11 Jul 2023 20:31

4 Ancestry trees have Joseph and Eleanor, but nothing after 1861.

FMP census covers Scotland 1841-1901 and not seeing them there.

Too early for online Emigration records which start at ?1890

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Jul 2023 20:25

Scottish censuses - excluding 1911 - are on FMP

But you need SP for BMD info

Marcus

Marcus Report 11 Jul 2023 20:20

Greyghost - that's them !

namelessone - I hadn't honetly thought of that !! Should have considered it, considering it is very close to Scotland......

Will keep it in mind.....

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 11 Jul 2023 20:16

Have you considered whether they moved to Scotland ( you would need to search on Scotlands People) or whether they emigrated?


greyghost

greyghost Report 11 Jul 2023 20:15

1851 and 1861 census for our info

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Fleming Square, Crosscanonby, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Wilson Head Married Male 38 1813 Shoe maker (journey man) Maryport, Cumberland,
Elenor Wilson Wife Married Female 30 1821 Shoe binder Oulton, Cumberland, England
Jane Stubbs Niece - Female 4 1847 - Oulton, Cumberland, England


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
St Helens Street, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Wilson Head Married Male 48 1813 Shoemaker Maryport, Cumberland, England
Eleanor Wilson Wife Married Female 39 1822 Cotton weaver Wigton,

Marcus

Marcus Report 11 Jul 2023 20:07

I am researching my Davidson relatives in Cumberland area who were in the weaving trade (Usually Cotton & Gingham) I have some details, but wish to tie up loose ends where possible!

Looking for the above Ellenor & Joseph Wison on census 1871 onwards.

Elleanor (Spelt varios ways) b c1820 to John Davidson & Matilda Henderson in Cumberland. (One of 9? children) !

I have her with her family in 1841, living in Oulton, nr Wigton, Cumberland
Ref - HO107/166 folio 4, page 8. (1841)

Elleanor & Joseph married 4 November, 1843 in Wigton, Cumberland.

1851 they were living in Fleming Square, Crosscanonby & Maryport, Cumberland.
Ref - HO107/2435 folio 469 page 23

Jane Stubbs, neice is with them - No one else !!

1861 They are in St. Helens Street, Cockermouth, Cumberland
Ref - RG9/3934 folio 6 page 8

I cannot find them after this on any census, or even deaths etc..

Can anyone please help with this??

Thanks