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Can anyone decipher this, please?

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Kuros

Kuros Report 16 Aug 2023 15:31

Thanks, all, for your efforts. Charles was obviously a colliery worker to have been occupying one of those houses, it's the other words I wondered about.

Annie

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Aug 2023 14:36

Kuros

You obviously 'know' that it is supposed to be Collier's Row, but using the address search facility on FMP doesn't produce the record to which you referred. ;-) ;-)

And the transcriber on FMP had no problems deciphering the occupation

Charles Jenkins Head Married Male 42 1849 Stationary engine driver Mamhilad, Monmouthshire, Wales
Maria Jenkins Wife Married Female 40 1851 - Nantyglo, Monmouthshire, Wales
Maria E Jenkins Daughter Single Female 19 1872 - Nantyglo, Monmouthshire, Wales
Henry Jenkins Son Single Male 16 1875 Colliery haulier Ebbw Vale, Monmouthshire, Wales
John Jenkins Son Single Male 16 1875 Colliery haulier Ebbw Vale, Monmouthshire, Wales

Kuros

Kuros Report 16 Aug 2023 13:50

Just by way of interest - if anyone is interested - just about every town in the South Wales Valleys had a Colliers Row, built to house the workers in the pits as they sprung up. As the pits grew - as did the numbers of workers - another row of houses was built. They then called the original houses Old Colliers Row and the new ones New Colliers Row. Just thought I'd throw that in the mix, not that it has any relevance to Charles and his mysterious occupation.

Annie

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Aug 2023 13:30

A rose by any other name……….. ;-) ;-)

But you are 100% correct AG..................viewing now on desktop as opposed to iPad and image is really clear.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Aug 2023 13:24

For picky total accuracy, it's "Stationary engine driver" on image.
There's also another word after that - possibly "under". Presumably short for "underground".

The enumerator thought it was Collins Row - or maybe couldn't read his own handwriting when transferring the info from his notes to the final form.

alviegal

alviegal Report 16 Aug 2023 13:23

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
8, Collins Row, Gelligaer, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales

Household members (10 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Jenkins Head
Married Male 42 1849 Stationary engine driver Mamhilad, Monmouthshire, Wales
Maria Jenkins Wife
Married Female 40 1851 - Nantyglo, Monmouthshire, Wales
Maria E Jenkins Daughter
Single Female 19 1872 - Nantyglo, Monmouthshire, Wales
Henry Jenkins Son
Single Male 16 1875 Colliery haulier Ebbw Vale, Monmouthshire, Wales
John Jenkins Son
Single Male 16 1875 Colliery haulier Ebbw Vale, Monmouthshire, Wales
Florence A M Jenkins Daughter
- Female 9 1882 Scholar Rhymney, Monmouthshire, Wales
Amos B Jenkins Son
- Male 7 1884 Scholar Rhymney, Monmouthshire, Wales
Sarah Jenkins Daughter
- Female 5 1886 Scholar Rhymney, Monmouthshire, Wales
Alfred Jones Nephew
- Male 0 1891 - Rhymney, Monmouthshire, Wales
William Charles Jenkner Grandson
- Male 0 1891 - Gelligaer, Glamorganshire, Wales

Kuros

Kuros Report 16 Aug 2023 12:44

Thanks, ErikaH, that's the family. It's definitely Colliers Row. We know the area. The street is still there, although the houses have been rebuilt and some have disappeared.

Annie

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Aug 2023 12:19

Static Engine Driver

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Aug 2023 12:11

Correct address...............

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
8, Collins Row, Gelligaer, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Aug 2023 12:10

OK.....is THIS the one you mean?

Name Charles Jenkins
Age 42**************************************not 44
Estimated Birth Year abt 1849
Relation Head
Spouse's Name Maria Jenkins
Gender Male
Where born Manhilud, Monmouthshire, Wales
Civil parish Gelligaer
Ecclesiastical parish St Tyfylog
Town Brithir
County/Island Glamorgan
Country Wales
Registration district Merthyr Tydfil
Sub registration district Gelligaer
ED, institution, or vessel 1
Piece 4431
Folio 8
Page number 9
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Charles Jenkins 42 Head
Maria Jenkins
40 Wife
Marion E Jenkins
19 Daughter
Henry Jenkins
15 Son
John Jenkins
14 Son
Florence A M Jenkins
9 Daughter
Amos B Jenkins
7 Son
Sarah Jenkins
5 Daughter
Alfred Jenkins
6/12 Nephew
William Charles Jenkins
2/12 Grandson

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Aug 2023 12:03

I can't see them at all..........please C&P transcription

Kuros

Kuros Report 16 Aug 2023 11:49

1891 Wales census
Parish: Gelligaer
Town: Brithdir
RG12/4431

Living at 8, Colliers Row is Charles Jenkins, age 44, born in Mamhilad, Monmouthshire. He's with his wife, Mary and six children, a nephew and a grandson.
There is writing next to Charles under the occupation column and I can't make it out at all, apart from two words possibly being "stated" and "name".

Can someone please take a peek for me?


Annie