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ArgyllGran Report 8 Sep 2023 11:16

That's a pity.
Don't know what else to suggest, I'm afraid!

The printout and certificate should both give you the same info.
The only difference is that the printout isn't an official legal document.
NZBDM says it is "A copy of the information from the registration, and usually used for research purposes. It is either handwritten or typed"


Craig Report 8 Sep 2023 06:28

Hi all
Just received printout, nothing other than father and mother mentioned as being parents of Jessie Gertrude Parker, nothing about possible adoption.



Craig Report 29 Aug 2023 21:46

Thanks, I will try and get a printout instead on Jessie Gertrude Parker and her recorded parents. I'm told a printout can give you more details than a certificate.



ArgyllGran Report 29 Aug 2023 08:44

Yes, the adoption scenario does sound possible -

but impossible to prove without seeing the adoption documents (if any).

Perhaps the next step would be to order a copy of the birth cert, to see the parents' details.
For instance, were they married or not? There might also be some note added to indicate that Jessie was adopted.

Registration Number Family Name Given Name(s) Mother's Given
Name(s) Father's Given
1903/17448 Parker Jessie Gertrude Laura Arthur


Craig Report 29 Aug 2023 05:24

In NZ you have to go thru the Courts to get adoption documents.
Legal adoption stated in 1881, new act 1955


Craig Report 29 Aug 2023 05:22

Thank you for all that data,
NZBDM has Jessies Gertrude Parker 1903 parents are ARTHUR & LAURA
Does this sound possible Jessie Gertrude Parker was her birth name and Charles Albert Melville and Mary Anne Franklin adopted her and they changed her name to Jessie Gertrude Melville. There was no birth certificate for Jessie, that's why when she and my mother went and applied for the old age pension she did not exist



ArgyllGran Report 28 Aug 2023 18:57

They seem to be two different women - though I admit the Melville record below is from someone's tree, therefore to be regarded with suspicion.

Different dates of death, and different places of death, about 360 miles apart.:

Jessie Gertrude Melville
in the Geneanet Community Trees Index
Name Jessie Gertrude Melville
Gender F (Female)
Birth Date 1903
Birth Place Waipu, Marsden (Waipu), Northland, Nouvelle-Zélande (New Zealand)
Death Date 1 nov. 1969 (1 Nov 1969)
Death Place Waipu, Marsden (Waipu), Northland, Nouvelle-Zélande (New Zealand)
Eugene Henry Robinson

Jessie Gertrude Ansley
in the Australia and New Zealand, Find a Grave® Index, 1800s-Current
Name Jessie Gertrude Ansley
Gender Female
Birth Date 1903
Birth Place Hamilton City, Waikato, New Zealand
Death Date 8 Nov 1969
Death Place Whanganui District, Manawatu-Whanganui, New Zealand
Cemetery Aramoho Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place Whanganui, Whanganui District, Manawatu-Whanganui, New Zealand
Has Bio? N
Eric William Ansley

The Robinson marriage was in 1922.

Eugene Henry Robinson died in 1941 in Wanganui..

I don't see any marriage for Eric William Ansley - but the NZ Marriage Index on Ancestry only goes up to 1937.
A tree on Ancestry claims it was in 1955 - but doesn't offer proof.

In 1969 Jessie and Eric are living at 69 Bell Street, Wanganui.


ErikaH Report 28 Aug 2023 11:27

Charles and Mary were at 232 Willis Street Wellington in 1911

Name Charles Albert Melville
Death Age 95
Birth Date abt 1866
Death Date 15 Dec 1961
Death Place Wanganui
Cemetery Cremations
Burial Place Wanganui, Rangitikei, Wanganui

Name Charles A Mellville
Age 2
Estimated Birth Year 1869
Relation Son
Gender Male
Where born Bromley Kent England
Civil parish East Grinstead
Town East Grinstead
County/Island Sussex
Country England
Registration district East Grinstead
Sub-registration district East Grinstead
ED, institution, or vessel 1
Household schedule number 181
Piece 1058
Folio 19
Page number 34
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Henry Thomas Mellville
38 Head
Mary A Mellville
28 Wife
Sydney A Mellville
3 Son
Charles A Mellville 2 Son
Henry C Mellville
1 Son
Herbert P Mellville
1/12 Son
Edward Lavender
16 Servant

Name Charles Albert Melville
Baptism Date 31 Mar 1878
Baptism Place East Grinstead, Sussex, England
Father Henry Thomas Melville
Mother Mary Ann Melville


ErikaH Report 28 Aug 2023 10:57

GRO Reference: 1868 D Quarter in BROMLEY UNION Volume 02A Page 343


ErikaH Report 28 Aug 2023 10:54

Name Jessie Gertrude Parker
Birth Date Jun 1903
Registration Place Hamilton, New Zealand
Birth Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Folio Number 1459

Her 'parents'

Charles Albert Melville

8 Dec 1901
Wellington, New Zealand
Mary Anne Franklin

Get the birth cert for factual info


ErikaH Report 28 Aug 2023 10:51

Have you looked for a birth record for her?

Presumably, you meant to type 1903 for the birth year?

When did legal adoption come into force in New Zealand?


Kay???? Report 28 Aug 2023 07:29

Jessie Gertrude Parker
BIRTH 21 JUN 1903 • Hamilton, New Zealand

DEATH 8 NOV 1969 • Wanganui, Whanganui, Manawatu-Wanganui, New Zealand.

this is what shows up by the tree owner.


Craig Report 27 Aug 2023 23:00

Hi All
Is there someone out there who can access ancestry and check out the following for me.
Jessie Gertrude Melville b.1803 either Auckland NZ or Wanganui, New Zealand.
LDS has a family tree with both names married to Eugene Henry Robinson first marriage and 2nd marriage to Eric William Ansley. Contacted LDS member who submitted the tree and said he got the data from the above web site. Jessie may of been adopted and Parker may of been her birth name.
She is my grand mother on my mother's side.
Family have always thought she could of been adopted, no one still alive that could put me right about it once and for all.

Craig NZ