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Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*
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20 Oct 2023 11:50 |
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I have the following young man living with his Aunty in 1911
John Thomas RICHARDS
B: 1895 - Hucknall Torkard, Nottinghamshire.
I've found his Baptism and believe he died in WW1
He should be the Son of John Thomas RICHARDS and his wife, Ellen but I can't find them in 1901 or 1911 . Ellen appears to be around to witness her Sister, Elizabeth's marriage in 1903.
Any help much appreciated
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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20 Oct 2023 12:57 |
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You can download a digital image of his birth for £2.50 on the gro site
That will give his parents names
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20 Oct 2023 13:03 |
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His parents must be named on his baptism record
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20 Oct 2023 13:04 |
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Name John T Richards
Age in 1911 16
Estimated Birth Year abt 1895
Relation to Head Nephew
Gender Male
Birth Place Hucknall Torkard
Civil parish Shirebrook
County/Island Nottinghamshire
Country England
Street Address 25 Merchant St
Marital Status Single
Occupation Miner Driver
Registration District Number 428
Sub-registration district Shirebrook
ED, institution, or vessel 05
Piece 20292
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Elizabeth Easter
28
Wife
Thomas Easter
7
Son
Margart Easter
4
Daughter
Willam Easom
20
Brother
John T Richards 16 Nephew
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20 Oct 2023 13:05 |
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For INFO...................MMN is VITAL
Marriages Sep 1894 (>99%)
Easom Ellen Basford 7b 173
Richards John Thomas Basford 7b 173
RICHARDS, JOHN THOMAS EASOM
GRO Reference: 1895 J Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 248
WHEN and WHERE was each of the parents born?
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20 Oct 2023 13:06 |
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John T Richards in 1911
1911 Census For England & Wales
25 Merchant St Shirebrook Mansfield, Shirebrook, Derbyshire, England
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First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Elizabeth Easter Wife Married Female 28 1883 - Hucknal Torkard
Thomas Easter Son - Male 7 1904 - Derby Shirebrook
Margaret Easter Daughter - Female 4 1907 - Derby Shirebrook
William Easom Brother Single Male 20 1891 Miner hewer Hucknal Torkard
John T Richards Nephew - Male 16 1895 Miner driver Hucknal Torkard
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20 Oct 2023 13:08 |
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John Richards in 1914-18
War Memorials Register
Nottinghamshire, England
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First name(s) John
Memorial John Player And Sons - WW2 (WMR 27332) Nottingham Nottinghamshire
Last name Richards
Place Nottinghamshire
Sex Male
County Nottinghamshire
Age -
Country England
Birth year -
Source website View the source website
Service number -
War First World War (1914-1918)
Death year 1914-18
Record set War Memorials Register
Event date -
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Death and burial details Country of death: Not Stated on Memorial Country of burial: Not Stated on Memorial Cemetery: Not Stated on Memorial
Subcategory First World War
Primary service (IWM reference) -
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Primary service as stated on memorial Service: Not Stated on Memorial Rank: Not Stated on Memorial Unit: Not Stated on Memorial
© IWM (WMR-33525-816254
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20 Oct 2023 13:09 |
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John Thomas Richards in 1914
British Army Service Records
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First name(s) John Thomas
Regiment Leicestershire Regiment
Last name Richards
Series WO 363
Birth year 1895
Series description Wo 363 - First World War Service Records 'Burnt Documents'
Birth town Nottingham
Archive The National Archives
Birth county Nottinghamshire
Record set British Army Service Records
Birth country England
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Age 19
Subcategory First World War
Year 1914
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
Service number 13342
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20 Oct 2023 13:13 |
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As it's obviously the parents you're asking about....................basic info
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
2, General Street, Hucknall Torkard, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England
Thomas Easom Head Married Male 33 1858 Coal miner Basford, Nottinghamshire, England
Hannah Easom Wife Married Female 36 1855 - Bedworth, Warwickshire, England
Ellen Easom Daughter - Female 12 1879 Scholar Hucknall, Nottinghamshire, England
Hannah Easom Daughter - Female 11 1880 Scholar Hucknall, Nottinghamshire, England
Thomas Easom Son - Female 10 1881 Scholar Hucknall, Nottinghamshire, England
Elizabeth Easom Daughter - Female 8 1883 Scholar Hucknall, Nottinghamshire, England
Betsy Ann Easom Daughter - Female 5 1886 - Hucknall, Nottinghamshire, England
Samuel Easom Son - Male 3 1888 - Hucknall, Nottinghamshire, England
William Easom Son - Male 0 1891 - Hucknall, Nottinghamshire, England
Thomas Gazey Lodger Single Male 36 1855 Coal miner Bedworth, Warwickshire, England
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20 Oct 2023 13:17 |
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From CWGC site a possible
JOHN THOMAS RICHARDS
Service Number: 27041
Regiment & Unit/Ship
King's Own (Royal Lancaster Regiment)
1st Bn.
Date of Death
Died 10 April 1917
Age 22 years old
Buried or commemorated at
ATHIES COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION
A. 6.
France
Commonwealth War Graves Commission - Headstone Placeholder
Country of Service
United Kingdom
Additional Info
Son of Mrs. E. Richards, of 26, Lincoln St., Old Basford, Nottingham.
Personal Inscription
FONDLY REMEMBERED MOTHER
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Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*
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20 Oct 2023 13:17 |
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Ellen EASOM born c1877 in Hucknall Torkard, Nottinghamshire. Daughter of Thomas EASOM born 1858 in
John Thomas RICHARDS born c1871 in ?Basford, Nottinghamshire. Occupation At time of marriage. Collier.
I have seen the Marriage Certificate online and Ellen is entered as Emma EASOM but signs as Ellen EASOM.
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20 Oct 2023 13:19 |
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As I said...........................
Name John Thomas Richards
Baptism Date 17 Apr 1895
Baptism Place Hucknall, St. John, Nottinghamshire, England
Father John Thomas Richards...Occ: Collier
Mother Ellen Richards
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20 Oct 2023 13:20 |
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The baptism. Hucknall Torkard is known as Hucknall these days.
Nottinghamshire Baptisms
First name(s) John Thomas
Church St John the Evangelist
Last name Richards
Denomination Anglican
Birth year -
Residence Hucknall Torkard
Baptism year 1895
County Nottinghamshire
Baptism date 17 Apr 1895
Country England
Father's first name(s) John Thomas
Record set Nottinghamshire Baptisms
Father's last name Richards
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Mother's first name(s) Ellen
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Mother's last name Richards
Collections from England, Great Britain
Baptism place Hucknall Torkard
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20 Oct 2023 13:24 |
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1921 Census Of England & Wales
26, Lincoln Street, Old Basford, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Ellen Richards Head WIDOW Female 1878 43 Hucknall, Nottinghamshire, England - Home Duties
Elizabeth Hannah (Davies) Richards Daughter Female 1907 14 Shirebrook, Derbyshire, England Back Tenter Hollins & Co Cotton Manufacturers
States BOTH parents alive for the child
DAVIES, ELIZABETH HANNAH EASOM
GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in MANSFIELD Volume 07B Page 85
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Elizabeth Hannah Davies
Birth
5 Sep 1906
Death
24 Feb 1967
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Elizabeth Hannah Davies
Born: 1906 in Shirebrook, Derbyshire, England
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20 Oct 2023 13:57 |
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Shirley posted Army records at 1309
Born Hucknall.
Looking at those documents he first joined the Leicestershire Regiment , but was transferred to the Lincolnshire Regiment less than 2 weeks later in Sept. 1914. 2 years later in Sep. 1916 a further transfer saw him in the Kings Own Royal Lancashires
Lastly there is an entry that says he was Killed in Action - the date is feint but looks like 1917 (elsewhere 10.4.1917
A further document shows " please note that any articles of personal property now in your possession or subsequently received by you belonging to No 27014 Private John Thomas Richards 1st Battalion Royal Lancaster Regt. should be despatched to -
Mrs Ellen Richards, 8 Birch's Row, Church Street, Old Basford, Nottingham. Further document says that's the address for Medals to be sent.
There is a signed note acknowledging receipt of British War Medal and Victory Medal 7.1922 and an earlier one in 4/1922, both signed Mrs E Richards having received the 1914/15 Star in respect of the Service of Pte JT Richards Royal Lancs
He served with the Expeditionary Force in France, then Mediterranean and back to France
There are entries for hospital time in the Dardanelles and Malta between 9/15 and 3/16 when he returned to England whilst with Lincs Regt. Went to (? 1st) Southern General Hospital in Bi=rmingham before being transferred to Paddington Park War hospital (near Croyden) and then Woldingham Convalescent depot in Surrey
His Grave is in Athies Military Cemetery near Arras
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20 Oct 2023 14:05 |
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Ellen 1901?
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
12, Betts Street, Hucknall Torkard, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England
Household members (2 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Edward Bailey Head
Married Male 28 1873 Coal miner Hucknall, Nottinghamshire, England
>>Ellen Richards House keeper
Married Female 24 1877 Hosiey maker Hucknall, Nottinghamshire, England
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20 Oct 2023 14:11 |
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Commonwealth War Graves Commission Debt Of Honour
Athies Communal Cemetery Extension, France
First name(s) John Thomas
Last name Richards
Birth year 1895
Age 22
Death year 1917
Death date 10 Apr 1917
War First World War, 1914-1918
Number 27041
Rank Private
Unit 1st Bn.
Regiment King's Own (Royal Lancaster Regiment)Collections from Great Britain, UK
Grave reference A. 6.
Cemetery or memorial Athies Communal Cemetery Extension
Burial country France
Additional information Son of Mrs. E. Richards, of 26, Lincoln St., Old Basford, Nottingham.
Link https://www.cwgc.org/find/find-war-dead
Record set Commonwealth War Graves Commission Debt Of Honour
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory First World War
© Commonwealth War Graves Commission
Personal Inscription - FONDLY REMEMBERED MOTHER
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20 Oct 2023 14:14 |
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Thanks guys! You're all brilliant. Think I've solved the mystery from here. :-D
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20 Oct 2023 14:42 |
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1911 Census For England & Wales
1 Wadsworth Road Bramley Rotherham, Bramley, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
John David Davies Head Married Male 43 1868 Pit sinker Newbridge S Wales
Helen Davies Wife Married Female 39 1872 - Hucknorterland Notts
Elizabeth H Davies Daughter - Female 5 1906 School Shirebrook Derbyshire
Matthew - Lodger Married Male 25 1886 Pit sinker Unknown Ireland
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