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1921 census Greenall Please

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Sylann Report 5 Jan 2024 15:21

Hi Happy new year to all

I have a Charles Edgar Greenall 1899 Knutsford -1965 Manchester apparently he married in 1920 to a Edith Annie Greenall ? Stockport Cheshire they had a daughter Marjorie Phyllis Greenall 1924 Manchester
I looked for a birth for Edith Annie Greenall couldn't find one on GRO
so looked for their daughter Marjorie Phyllis and one came up MMN Ralphs
I've got nothing for Edith Annie So hoping the 1921 census will tell me a bit about her where she was born mainly so I can find out about her

Yes I've asked about Greenall's before but not this person I know all about Charles 's family


Sylann Report 5 Jan 2024 15:25

Sorry just looked on cheshire BMD they have the marriage her name was Ralphs so just need where she was born
Apparently she was married to a George Greenall if it's right 1917


ErikaH Report 5 Jan 2024 15:32

1921 Census Of England & Wales
16, Broadhurst Street, Stockport, Cheshire, England

Norman Adshead Head Male 1894 27 Stockport, Cheshire, England Motor Vanman Household Laundry Ltd
Beatrice Adshead Wife Female 1894 27 Stockport, Cheshire, England Head Calender Hand Household Laundry Ltd
Charles Edgar Greenall Boarder Male 1898 23 Knutsford, Cheshire, England Railway Engine Fireman London & North Western Railway Company
Edith Annie Greenall Boarder Female 1892 28 Welshampton, Shropshire, England Home Duties -


ErikaH Report 5 Jan 2024 15:37

Name Edith Annie Greenall
[Edith Greenall]
Death Date 12 Dec 1961
Death Place Manchester, Chester, England
Probate Date 8 Jan 1962
Probate Registry Manchester, Chester, England

Probate to Charles Edgar

Name Edith A Greenall
Gender Female
Marital Status Married
Birth Date 17 Nov 1889
Residence Date 1939

No MMN recorded - therefore illegitimate

GRO Reference: 1889 D Quarter in ELLESMERE Volume 06A Page 683


ErikaH Report 5 Jan 2024 15:41

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Hampton Bank, Welsh Hampton, Ellesmere, Shropshire, England
Philip Ralphs Head Married Male 30 1861 General labourer Welshampton, Shropshire, England
Mary Ralphes Wife Married Female 35 1856 - Ellesmere, Shropshire, England
Mary Ralphes Daughter Single Female 12 1879 Scholar Ellesmere, Shropshire, England
Sarah Ralphes Daughter - Female 11 1880 Scholar Welshampton, Shropshire, England
Lizzie Ralphes Daughter - Female 4 1887 - Welshampton, Shropshire, England
Harry Ralphes Son - Male 0 1891 - Welshampton, Shropshire, England
Edith Annie Ralphes Niece - Female 1 1890 - Welshampton, Shropshire, England


Sylann Report 5 Jan 2024 15:46

THank you that put things into place Now I know what I'm looking for Didn't think she was born so far away thought Manchester

It will give me some thing to do now


ErikaH Report 5 Jan 2024 15:47

Name Edith Annie Greenall
Age 72
Record Type Burial
Birth Date abt 1889
Death Date abt 1961
Burial Date 15 Dec 1961
Burial Place Manchester, Greater Manchester, England
Cemetery Gorton Cemetery
Cemetery Section Gg
Grave Number 70

Also commemorated.....husband Charles, daughter Marjorie (Morton) 1986 and her husband Joseph..died 2010, aged 90


ErikaH Report 5 Jan 2024 15:49

Shropshire adjoins Cheshire

Welshampton is a small village and former civil parish, now in the parish of Welshampton and Lyneal, in the Shropshire district, in the ceremonial county of Shropshire, England. It is located on the A495 road, near to the town of Ellesmere.


ErikaH Report 5 Jan 2024 15:55

Name Elizabeth Fisher
Age in 1901 30
Estimated Birth Year abt 1871
Relation Wife
Spouse John Fisher
Gender Female
Where born Welshampton, Shropshire, England********************************
Civil parish Bronington
Town Bronington
Ecclesiastical parish Bronington
County/Island Flintshire
Country Wales
Registration district Ellesmere
Sub-registration district Hanmer
ED, institution, or vessel 2
Neighbors View others on page
Household schedule number 93
Piece 2548
Folio 23
Page number 16
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Edward Fisher 67 Head
John Fisher 35 Son
Elizabeth Fisher 30 Wife
Annie Fisher 6 Daughter
Thomas Fisher 4 Son
John H Fisher 7 Months Son
Edith Ralphs 11 Visitor
William Ellis 24 Visitor
Hannah Ellis 27 Visitor

GRO Reference: 1900 D Quarter in ELLESMERE Volume 06A Page 657

Marriages Mar 1896 (>99%)

Fisher John Ellesmere 6a 1015
Ralphs Elizabeth Ellesmere 6a 1015


Sylann Report 5 Jan 2024 16:19

Thank for that never thought of getting the 1901 census

What do you think about her marriage Edith Annie Greenall and the other one the same but name Ralphs So to me she had been married before and looking on the cheshire BMD 1917 George Greenall ??

I've a feeling this ties in with the Greenalls I've got possibly George and Charles brothers or cousins


Sylann Report 5 Jan 2024 16:24

!871 census for Philip H Ralphs in the 1891 census he has a sister Elizabeth age 2 so that falls into place


Sylann Report 5 Jan 2024 16:52

All Sorted Edith Ralphs Married George Greenall 1917 He died 1918 WW1 in 1920 she married Charles who was Georges Brother

Thank you for your help 1921 census gave the vital clue were she was born