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1939 register Kinley

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Sylann Report 19 Jan 2024 14:59

Hi I'm on ancestry and have a 1939 register for a Harold Kinley 1889 Salford Lancashire and his wife Annie G Scattergood 1884 living in Hove Sussex
On the form it has 2 Children blanked out I'm wondering if another site has the same copy but with the names showing ?
I found they had possibly twins in 1915 but both died as babies I've looked on BMD but nothing

So if anyone can look on FMP or any other site to see if they have anything

THank you

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 19 Jan 2024 15:37

I only have access to Ancestry, but the 2 blanked out entries might not be children. They could be other extended family or even lodgers whose deaths registrations have not been picked up.

Have you looked for Wills for the couple in case some other names are mentioned?


Sylann Report 19 Jan 2024 15:42

No I haven't looked for wills I'll try that

Thank you


ErikaH Report 19 Jan 2024 17:23

Same closed records on FMP

No way of knowing who they are

NO Kinley children with the couple on 1921 census


alviegal Report 19 Jan 2024 20:01

1939 Register
2 Wilbury Grove Mews, Hove, Hove M.B., Sussex, England
1939 register badge
View original record
Household members (5 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) Birth date Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule sub number
Harold Kinley 10 Feb 1889 Male Chauffeur Married 435 1
Annie (G) Kinley 12 Aug 1884 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 435 2

The record for this person is officially closed.

The record for this person is officially closed.

The record for this person is officially closed.

Fmp has 5 people residing at the address but there are 2 named persons and 2 closed records.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Jan 2024 20:52

They married in 1914

Marriages Jun 1914
Kinley Harold Scattergood Salford 8d 155
Scattergood Annie G Kinley Salford 8d 155

Looking on freebmd

Births Mar 1915
Kinley Cecil Scattergood Salford 8d 261
Kinley Elsie Scattergood Salford 8d 261

Deaths Mar 1915
Kinley Cecil 0 Salford 8d 218
Kinley Elsie 0 Salford 8d 216

So easily found on freebmd

And for £2.50 on the GRO you can download a digital image to see if they are their children

GRO Reference: 1915 M Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 261
Order this entry as a: Order Certificate of selected entry Order PDF of selected entry Order digital image of selected entry


Sylann Report 20 Jan 2024 11:39

Thank you for looking it was worth a try

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Jan 2024 08:08


I posted the details of the possibly twins !!

Download one of them as a digital download to check if right family


alviegal Report 22 Jan 2024 13:13

I think Sylann has found those details but is wondering whether the two closed records are other children the couple may have had.

There are no other births showing for Kinley/ Scattergood so would assume these records are not for any children they had together.

I apologise if I have misread this and agree that getting possibly the death certificates would clear up any doubt if it is the twins that you are wondering about.


ErikaH Report 22 Jan 2024 13:25

As alviegal so rightly says, the query is about the identities of the subjects of the two closed records, which it isn't possible to establish, as there are no other recorded births with the relevant surname combination.


ErikaH Report 22 Jan 2024 14:10

Name Annie Gertrude Kinley
Death Date 19 Feb 1974
Death Place Hove
Probate Date 26 Jun 1974
Probate Registry Brighton

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 22 Jan 2024 18:50

I had a look at Harold's military record on Ancestry to see if any children were listed.

As he enlisted after the birth and deaths of the children found, they were not recorded, but the date and place of his marriage is shown.
No further children recorded.