Find Ancestors

Top tip - using the Genes Reunited community

Welcome to the Genes Reunited community boards!

  • The Genes Reunited community is made up of millions of people with similar interests. Discover your family history and make life long friends along the way.
  • You will find a close knit but welcoming group of keen genealogists all prepared to offer advice and help to new members.
  • And it's not all serious business. The boards are often a place to relax and be entertained by all kinds of subjects.
  • The Genes community will go out of their way to help you, so don’t be shy about asking for help.

Quick Search

Single word search


  • New posts
  • No new posts
  • Thread closed
  • Stickied, new posts
  • Stickied, no new posts

Death of James Cross , probably 1881-91.

ProfilePosted byOptionsPost Date
Marked As Answer Marked as Answered


ArgyllGran Report 29 Apr 2024 17:03

Maybe a fresh pair of eyes will spot the death of James Cross.

I have all details of his wife and all their children, so please don't bother with any of that.

He was born approx 1816-19 in Newport Pagnell, per censuses.
(Because of the names of his children, I think he was possibly baptised 16/9/1815, son of Thomas and Sarah - but I'm only looking for his death.)

In 1838 he married Ann Holtom in Akeley, Bucks.
He's in all the censuses up to and including 1881, with Ann and various children:

Thomas 1840, Levi 1842, Robert 1847, Mary Elizabeth 1849, Jane 1850, William George 1855.
Three other daughters died in infancy and don't appear on censuses (Mary Anne 1844, Sarah Anne 1857, and Martha Ann 1859).

His wife Ann died in Kings Norton in 1884.

1881 is the last sighting of James.
He is NOT with any of his children in later censuses - please don't spend time researching that.

James Cross
in the 1881 England Census
Name James Cross
Age 64
Estimated Birth Year abt 1817
Relationship to Head Head
Spouse Ann Cross
Gender Male
Where born Newport Pagnell, Bedfordshire, England
Civil parish Kings Norton
County/Island Worcestershire
Country England
Street Address Tanners Lane
Marital Status Married
Occupation Labourer
Registration district Kings Norton
ED, institution, or vessel 3
Piece 2945
Folio 24
Page number 2
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
James Cross 64 Head
Ann Cross 62 Wife
Levi Thos. Roberts 11 Grandson
Robert George Roberts 10 Grandson

(The grandchildren are the children of Mary Elizabeth, who died in 1871 .)

I assume James died between 1881 and 1891 - but can't find any record of it.

Also, I have all the children's birth records - except Robert 1847.

I'll be grateful if anyone can find James's death or Robert's birth.


ErikaH Report 29 Apr 2024 17:35

How was Ann described on her death cert? (Wife, or widow)


ArgyllGran Report 29 Apr 2024 18:09

"Wife of James Cross, labourer."

The informant was her daughter Jane.


ErikaH Report 29 Apr 2024 18:43

Just to say……..FMP have no suggestions for forward ‘links’ for him based on1881


ErikaH Report 29 Apr 2024 18:52

Have you checked the AMJ 1847 birth in Buckingham of a Male Cross?

I’m guessing that you have, as you will have used the GRO……………


ArgyllGran Report 29 Apr 2024 18:59

That one's mmn is Rawlings.


Jink20 Report 30 Apr 2024 01:29


Apologies. My posts are results you will have seen and excluded etc etc and is information you will have most likely found for yourself. Given the amount of research you submit for others I felt compelled to try to help you as best I could.

Based on James' approx. YOB, and age in the 1881 Census, I found these Death results which are inconclusive.
I haven't researched any of them any further.
I accept none of them are in King's Norton or Worcestershire, where Ann died.

James Cross 69 1817 Oct-Nov-Dec Lambeth, London, United Kingdom
Dec 1886 Lambeth, United Kingdom 1d 308

James Cross 70 1817 Oct-Nov-Dec Ely, Cambridgeshire, United Kingdom
Dec 1887 Cambridgeshire, United Kingdom 3b 350

James Cross 73 1815 Apr-May-Jun Dorchester, Dorset, United Kingdom
Jun 1888 Dorset, United Kingdom 5a 225

James Cross 72 1818 Jan-Feb-Mar Burton upon Trent, Staffordshire
Mar 1890 Staffordshire, United Kingdom 6b 302

James Cross 73 1817 Oct-Nov-Dec Tonbridge, Kent, United Kingdom
Dec 1890 Kent, United Kingdom 2a 422

I have also looked at :both FindAGrave and BillionGraves- No exact match
:King's Norton Death entries only -Negative result for James
: FMP Newspaper listings- Briefly - No exact match found

Genuki result- Re Robert

The original copies of the Akeley parish registers have been deposited in the Buckinghamshire Record Office in Aylesbury, and they hold the following years:

Event Dates covered
Christenings 1682 - 1979
Marriages 1688 - 1978
Banns 1789 - 1979
Burials 1682 - 1954

£12.00 each


ArgyllGran Report 30 Apr 2024 08:43

Many thanks for your efforts, ErikaH and Jink20.

I'm looking at James's death and Robert's birth as minor brick walls, about which I'm not worried enough to spend money at present, but I'll certainly consider all your suggestions, Jink.

Without having followed it up in any way so far, the Lambeth death might be a possibility, as James's son William (known by his middle name George) lived in various parts of London from somewhere between 1871 and 1881 onwards, employed in Black Rod's office at the House of Lords..

Other than that, I'll consider this thread closed.

James was a nephew of one of my gr-gr-gr-grandfathers..

I'm sure Robert would have been born in Akeley, as all his siblings were.


ErikaH Report 30 Apr 2024 08:51

Robert’s birthplace is certainly given as Akeley on the census records I have seen - although FMP transcribes his forename as Roland on one of them. The image is not sufficiently clear for me to be able to submit a correction


ArgyllGran Report 30 Apr 2024 10:08

Found James's death!

GRO Reference: 1886 M Quarter in WOKINGHAM Volume 02C Page 297

Digital cert says died 4/2/1886 at Twyford Whistley.
Agricultural labourer.
Died of "bronchitis, asphyxia".
Informant: son Robert Cross, of Twyford Whistley.

James's son Robert lived in Twyford with wife Ann and family, in 1881 census and later.