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I'm trying to find out more about my great great grandmother, Rose Anna/Roseanna Waterson, who was born in 1849 in Newcastle on Tyne. Roseanna married James Michael O'Kaine in 1864 in Newcastle. One of her children was born in Castlewellan, County Down, and the rest in England. I am trying to establish the Northern Ireland connection, as I think James was from Dundrum or somewhere nearby and was a journeyman tailor; his father was Edward O'Kaine. The name has had many variations in spelling over the years, and has appeared as O'Kaine, O'Kane, O'Keane, Kain, Cain, O'Cane etc. Any information will be hugely appreciated!

James Michael O'Kaine seems to have been known as Michael. I believe he died in Nottingham in 1910. My grandmother told her daughter that she remembers him visiting her parents' house about once a year, having something to eat and then going off again.

Maybe this is Roseanna



1851 England Census

Name:Rosey Waterson
Age:3
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1848
Relation:Daughter
Father's Name:William Waterson
Mother's name:Sarah Waterson
Gender:F (Female)
Where born:Ireland
Civil parish:Newcastle upon Tyne St Andrew
County/Island:Northumberland
Country:England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:


Registration district:Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration district:St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors:

Household schedule number: 165
Piece:2405
Folio: 164
Page Number: 37

Household Members:

William Waterson 34 Draper Hawker
Sarah Waterson 28 Born Ireland
Rosey Waterson 3 born Ireland
Attes Waterson 1 Born Newraith ?
John Waterson 26 Servant Born Newraith ?
Patrick McGrane 34 Servant Born Ireland
John Sya (Syce) 30 Servant Born Ireland
John Dunn 27 Servant Born Ireland
Heugh McCarton 25 Servant Born Ireland
Cathrine Burns 23 House Servant Born Ireland
Susan Burns 20 House Servant Born Ireland
Elizabeth Armstrong 35 Miliner Born Ireland

Yes that's her, I can work out where she was for most of her life, apart from where she was born, it's so frustrating!

1871 census has her and children in Union Workhouse Newcastle upon tyne.

1851 census gives Ireland as her place of birth.

But the 1851 census says she was born in Ireland.

I know now that she was born in Ireland (or might have been). Didn't realise I'd put Newcastle in the first post, as I wrote it ages ago when I first started researching. She was in the Dewsbury workhouse in 1871 with her children but without her husband, under the name of Rose Cain, but she managed to get herself and her kids out fairly quickly.

Julia.....Is this one of their children...if so then note fathers name is JOHN according to this entry for St Cuthberts.....

parents: Joannis Cain,? Rosanna Waterson Cain


name: Maria Theresa Cain
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 15 Jul 1866
baptism/christening place: St Cuthbert's, North Shields, Northumberland, England
birth date: 03 Jul 1866
father's name: Joannis Cain
mother's name: Rosanna Waterson Cain

That looks like her second daughter, Mary Teresa, who was born in North Shields, but I've never been able to find the birth in the records. Brilliant! Her eldest child was called Sarah, and would have been born in 1864-5 in the same area.
I wonder why they have put the father as Joannis/John. His name was James Michael O'Kaine but he was known as Michael. I know they lied on the marriage certificate, because they said his name was Michael Kain, and that he was 22 and Roseanna was 18, when they were in fact 26 and 15!
He sounds like a bit of a dodgy character, but interesting to find out this little snippet. Do you have access to a website for St Cuthberts parish records? I had a look just now but can only find the regular website.
Thanks again for this, it looks like they didn't bother to register the birth, only the christening!

Julia....I assume you have the MC for Rosy... (March quarter 1864 Ncle) yes it does show Michael Kaine as spouse....???

Births for both Sarah and Marie T. Registered Tynemouth

Sarah CAIN ....

parents: Michael Cain,? Rosannae Waterson


name: Sarah Cain
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 04 Dec 1864
baptism/christening place: St. Cuthberts, North Shields, Northumberland, England
father's name: Michael Cain
mother's name: Rosannae Waterson


You can find the Baptisms on Family Search.org and Births on Free BMD.

I can only assume either Michael died and she then married John...(cant find a death...) or that the actual transcription (for Marie T) has been entered incorrectly from the Registers to the data base....
Registers are held at Ncle Archives Blanford St. you may need to get in touch with them to check registers for you.

Julia...Have you noticed this thread....May be a connection somewhere....

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1264795.....

His original thread was connected to the Kanes (NS.).....

I can't get that link to open, it keeps bringing up an error page.

Julia....I cant get it either wonder if he has deleted "original thread"...this is the latest...(feb 24)


http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1293232

Ah, now I can see it. I don't think that Mary Kane is connected to my search though. Roseanna had a daughter called Mary Teresa O'Kaine, but she died in 1885, aged 18 of epilepsy.
I've had a breakthrough from another site though and found Roseanna's parents' marriage record (I hope!) through someone else who is researching the family. I've sent off for a copy of the certificate, which should hopefully get me a bit further.

Julia....I will continue on the other thread from now on...
Can always refer back to this if needs be...

Probably a good idea, I'm dizzy from all the new information, after a two year drought!