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Jesse or Jessie Bick nee Holtham
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Marianne | Report | 5 Apr 2008 21:41 |
Hi Helen |
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Tillot | Report | 5 Apr 2008 21:23 |
Hi Marianne, |
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Marianne | Report | 5 Apr 2008 21:11 |
Kathleen |
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KathleenBell | Report | 25 Jan 2008 16:37 |
I think this might be Sarah Holtham in the 1871 census as an unmarried servant, which would make Holtham her maiden name. Jessie may have just "made up" a father for her marriage certificate to save face with the in-laws (this happened a lot). The head of the household was a launderess, so perhaps Sarah was trained as a launderess at a later date. |
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KathleenBell | Report | 25 Jan 2008 16:28 |
This looks like Jessie in 1891 in an Industrial Training Home for Girls:- |
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Marianne | Report | 25 Jan 2008 11:11 |
First of all a big thank-you to all for your advice. Since first posting my request I have obtained both birth and marriage certificates for my Jessie Holtham. |
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Laraine | Report | 9 Feb 2006 13:38 |
Hi im looking for any information on another A lfred Bick who was born in Birmingham 1886,son of i think George Bick of Gloucs & possibly a relative of the Alfred Bick first mentioned. Details of when he died & where he is buried i would like to find out please. He is my great grandfather. Thank you. |
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Zoe | Report | 24 Jan 2006 18:56 |
Helen Little Nell you might be correct in 1891 1 Alma Place Holtham, Francis L abt 1875 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Barton St Mary Gloucestershire <Tram Conductor Holtham, Sarah A abt 1854 Lower Guitring, Gloucestershire, England Head Barton St Mary Gloucestershire <<Laundress No Jessie with them Zoe |
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Zoe | Report | 24 Jan 2006 18:49 |
I think it best to get her birth cert then we would know parents names Zoe |
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KathleenBell | Report | 24 Jan 2006 18:48 |
Think this might be Jessie in 1881, although the spelling is wrong and has been entered as son instead of daughter:- Francis S. Holtham abt 1876 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Son 8 Commercial Street, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England ***Jesse Holtham*** abt 1879 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Son 8 Commercial Street, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Sarah Ann Holtham abt 1854 Lower Guiting, Gloucestershire, England Head 8 Commercial Street, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Kath. x |
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Unknown | Report | 24 Jan 2006 18:47 |
With the same 1879 dob and place of birth Cheltenham on 1891 and 1881 I went back to 1881 to check out Jesse, son. The image clearly says Jesse and son, but I wondered if this was an error and the enumerator wrote down Jesse as a lad's name because he knew it and just asked the age without checking sex of child. Rest of household: RG11/2576 111 p.33 8 Commercial Street, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, Sarah Ann Holtham abt 1854 Lower Guiting, Glos, Head laundress [column with marital condition is difficult to read, and could say wid, but I think it says Mar] Francis S. Holtham abt 1876 Cheltenham, Son scholar Jesse Holtham abt 1879 Cheltenham,Son |
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Debi Coone | Report | 24 Jan 2006 18:46 |
Hopefuly by purchasing Jessies Marriage Cert you'd have her father recorded : Marriages Jun 1898 Bick Alfred Gloucester 6a 536 Holtham Jessie Gloucester 6a 536 Going by the info found for 1891 this MIGHT be her birth: Births Dec 1878 Holtham Jessie Cheltenham 6a 452 |
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Zoe | Report | 24 Jan 2006 18:43 |
Found this family is it a coincidink 1891 Holtham, Florence Mabel abt 1890 Manchester, Lancashire, England Daughter Chorlton on Medlock Lancashire Holtham, Jessie Katherine abt 1867 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Wife Chorlton on Medlock Lancashire Holtham, Thomas Henry abt 1868 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Head Chorlton on Medlock Lancashire <<Grocers assistant |
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Unknown | Report | 24 Jan 2006 18:43 |
Not on 1881 census index, unless she is the one born in Hackney: Jesse Holtham abt 1879 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, Son 8 Commercial Street, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, Jessie Holtham abt 1870 Hackney, Middlesex,Daughter 67 Mare Street, Hackney, London, Jessie Holtham abt 1872 Handsworth, Yorkshire Daughter Handsworth Hall, Handsworth, Yorkshire, 1891 has Holtham, Jessie Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1879 Relation: Inmate Gender: Female Where Born: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire Civil parish: Hempstead Ecclesiastical parish: Hempstead Town: Hempstead County/Island: Gloucestershire Source information: RG12/2015 Folio: 64 Page: 26 Registration district: Gloucester Sub reg district: South Hamlet ED, institution, or vessel: 5 at Newark House, which appears to be an institution full of teenage girls. |
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Zoe | Report | 24 Jan 2006 18:42 |
Jessie 1891 Name: Holtham, Jessie Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1879 Relation: Inmate Gender: Female Where Born: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire Birth Country: England Civil parish: Hempstead Ecclesiastical parish: Hempstead Town: Hempstead County/Island: Gloucestershire Street address: View Image Condition as to marriage: View Image Education: View Image Employment status: View Image Occupation: View Image Source information: RG12/2015 Registration district: Gloucester Sub registration district: South Hamlet ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Folio: 64 Page: 26 (click to see others on page) GSU Number: 6097125 |
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Zoe | Report | 24 Jan 2006 18:37 |
ok 1901 28 Tredworth Road Alfred Bick abt 1878 Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England Head Gloucester Gloucestershire <<Rivitter Frances J Bick abt 1900 Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Gloucester Gloucestershire Jessie Bick abt 1879 Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England Wife Gloucester Gloucestershire Percival W Bick abt 1899 Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England Son Gloucester Gloucestershire Albert Dee abt 1869 Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England Visitor Gloucester Gloucestershire <<General Labourer Emily Dee abt 1875 Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England Visitor Gloucester Gloucestershire Florence Dee abt 1894 Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England Visitor Gloucester Gloucestershire Gladys Dee abt 1895 Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England Visitor Gloucester Gloucestershire Will look in other census |
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Marianne | Report | 24 Jan 2006 18:32 |
I am trying to find information on my husband's paternal grandmother. Jesse/Jessie Holtham was born between 1874-1878 in or around Gloucester. She married Alfred Bick in 1898 and had 4 children; Percival (1899) Frances, Lionel (1904) and Doris (1909). Jess died in 1943 in Gloucester, last address was Treadworth Road, Gloucester. Does anyone have information on the Holtham family and where they come from? Many thanks Marianne Bick |