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Tracey More info-- Frederick McPherson born 1850 North Cray appears on the 1861 census as a 10 year old with parents James and Mary McPherson but disappears for the 1851, 71 and 91 census. In 1881 he's living on his own as 30 year old in Plumstead. Albert is 17 and at home in the 1881 census, he marries Eliza in 1885 and can't be traced on the 1891 census but the pair tunr up in the 1901 census with their three children the first of which Albert, was born in 1886. Walter is 7 on the 1861 census at home in Plumstead with parents James and Mary McPherson. In 1880 he marries Emma, where was he in 1871. Lastly, Frederick and Mary are not at home with parents Walter and Emma in 1901 despite being 7 and 9 respectively. Regards Roy

i don't have any addr on the marriage cert. this is the info i have Married at The church in the parish St James the Green, middx Charles Marks - age: Full - Bachelor - Carver - Residence: Bethnal Green - Father: Mark Marks Deceased Isadora Noble Age: Full - Spinster - Residence: Bethnal Green - Father George Wheeler Noble Deceased Witnessed by: Willilam Edwards and Caroline Hill Annie

Roy, I've found this one in 1891 Macpherson, Fred abt 1891 Eltham, Kent, England Son Woolwich London His DOB is way out, as is the relationship. I can't read the relationship, but his age is 40. This lady is with him... Macpherson, Jane abt 1824 North Cray, Kent, England Mother Woolwich London Do you recognise her? I don't think she's his mother. I can't see any of the others though.

Thanks for your precious time Tracy. I am researching the Frohocks from Lincoln. I have George and Mary(nee ???) daughter Sarah J up to the 1891 Census living at 3 Fotherby Cottages. I know that they moved to Albany Street. Is there anymore of them between 1901 and as far you can go. Your help would be appreciated.

Hi and thank you, I will have to get my eyes tested, sure I had looked there, but maybe not-and Lol there were quite a few Watson Diston, will look and see-thank you so much. Jennifer.

Tracey Frederick was born about 1850 in Bromley or Eltham and that would tie up, as would his being a dock labourer. His father James was born in 1824, not sure where but probably North Cray, his mother Mary was born 1825 in North Cray but I don't know a Jane McPherson. Now I'm just as puzzled. Regards Roy

Hi Tracey Thankyou for you kind offer please could you Look on the 1891 census John Oliver born Suuton at Hone Kent abt 1819 Jane Oliver born same abt 1825 wife Thankyou Jane

Hi, Jennifer again, thanks for that, have viewed scan, very difficult to read but definitely him-thanks again.

Roy, not that it help, but he's a Dock Labourer in 1891.

Annie, I've found this one in 1851... Charles Marks abt 1814 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Head Newington Surrey Frances Marks abt 1815 London, Middlesex, England Wife Newington Surrey He's a Carpet/Bag Maker. No way of knowing if he's yours though.

Tracey That does tie in with an earleir census, so Dock Labourer and circa 1850 fit for the birthday I just need to find out who the Jane is? Roy

Roy, she might not even be related. The census page is very poor.

Richard, 1901 George Albert Frohock abt 1862 Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England Head St Nicholas Lincolnshire Mary Frohock abt 1863 Nettleham, Lincolnshire, England Wife St Nicholas Lincolnshire Sarah Frokoch abt 1883 Lincolnshire, England Servant Cleethorpes Lincolnshire

Tracey Just seems odd that his parents and grand parents (none called Jane) come from North Cray too. Roy

Jane Oliver, John abt 1821 Sutton at Hone, Kent, England Head Northfleet Kent Oliver, Janes abt 1825 Sutton at Hone, Kent, England Wife Northfleet Kent Oliver, Arthur abt 1869 Northfleet, Kent, England Son Northfleet Kent

Tracy Yes i founf that also, and i'm not sure that its him, but thanks for taking the time to have a look. I'll put my hat away LOL Annie x

Hi Tracy Thankyou for finding my Oliver family 1891 sorry to be a pain but do you have the address. Jane

Jane, Dover castle? Hill

Tracy thanks again Jane

Thanks for your help Tracy, is there any chance we could have some more help? we think Sarah Frohock had two children Elsie and Marjorie(born in 1908 in Lincoln) , and maybe a boy called William, do you have any information about that?