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many apologies, he was registered as paul but was known as philip

I wish I'd known you had the info on the son.........I could have saved a lot of time. As you referred to him as Paul in your message, it seemed that you didn't. It does help if all the info is posted................. Rose

Hi again Tracy, Women often took on the name of their partner for proprietry reasons when they were not married. It would have been very embarrassing to admit to the registrar when registering a baby that tthey were unmarried, and therefore the baby was illegitimate. And the registrar would have no reason to disbelieve what he was told as they were not required to supply proof of marriage. Liz x

Thanks all for the info, i have all the details concerning phillip, but i can't seem to track down his father, i know his father was definalty called Henry Tapper and his mother was Mary Tapper formerly Jewell (all is on Phillips birth certificate) I am beginning to wander perhaps they were not married but then why would it say 'Mary Tapper formely Jewell on phillips birth certificate.

Have looked at 1837 but no joy

Philip in 1891.................(Devonport and Torpoint are very close to each other) Tapper, Philip abt 1866 Devonport, Devon, England Visitor Charles Devon View Record Tapper, Susan abt 1867 Millbrook, Cornwall, England Visitor Charles Devon View Record Tapper, Sydney abt 1890 Millbrook, Cornwall, England Visitor Charles Devon His death Name: Tapper, Philip Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 30 Quarter: March Year: 1896 District: St Germans County: Cornwall Volume: 5c Page: 23 Susan re-married .....this is 1901 Catherine Blagdon abt 1897 Millbrook, Cornwall, England Daughter Millbrook Cornwall View Record Edwin Blagdon abt 1898 Millbrook, Cornwall, England Son Millbrook Cornwall View Record John H Blagdon abt 1865 Plymouth, Devon, England Head Millbrook Cornwall View Record Reginald Blagdon Millbrook, Cornwall, England Son Millbrook Cornwall View Record Susan E Blagdon abt 1867 Millbrook, Cornwall, England Wife Millbrook Cornwall View Record Philip Tapper abt 1892 Millbrook, Cornwall, England Stepson Millbrook Cornwall View Record Sydney Tapper abt 1890 Millbrook, Cornwall, England Stepson Millbrook Cornwall Rose

This birth reg might clear up a few queries............looks to me like the younger boy on 1871........ Name: Manning, William Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1870 District: St Germans County: Cornwall Volume: 5c Page: 45 St. Germans Created 1st July 1837. Sub-districts : Antony; St. Germans; Saltash. GRO volumes : IX (1837-51); 5c (1852-1930). Antony, Botusfleming, Landrake, Landulph, Maker, Millbrook, Pillaton, Quethiock, Rame, St. Erney, St. Germans, St. John's, St. Mellion, St. Stephen's, Saltash, Sheviock, Torpoint. Registers now in St. Germans district Rose

These are the Mary Jewells on 1861 with birthplace in Cornwall, in approx year Mary Jewell abt 1843 Wendron, Cornwall, England Daughter Wendron Cornwall View Record Mary A Jewell abt 1844 Falmouth, Cornwall, England Daughter Falmouth Cornwall View Record Mary A Jewell abt 1844 Kilhampton, Cornwall, England Servant Poughill Cornwall View Record Mary I Jewell abt 1845 Grade, Cornwall, England Daughter Constantine Cornwall Rose

Could this be relevant? 1871............ Mary Manning abt 1844 Saltash, Cornwall, England Wife Maker Cornwall View Record William Manning abt 1835 Bideford, Devon, England Head Maker Cornwall View Record William Manning abt 1869 Maker, Cornwall, England Son Maker Cornwall View Record Phillip Tapper abt 1865 Torpoint, Cornwall, England Stepson Maker Cornwall Tracy..any feedback, please post to the thread............do not PM me. Thanks Rose

Could this be the son's marriage? Name: Tapper, Philipp Paul J Record Type: Marriages Quarter: March Year: 1885 District: St Germans County: Cornwall Volume: 5c Page: 65 Makes a difference when searching on the census, if the first name is Phillip Rose

Tracy has sent me pm to the effect that Henry and Mary had a son called Paul Jewell Tapper in 1864, but she has not found them on any census. Does anyone else want to join in with ideas? I have checked familyrellies 1866 onwards for a marriage and drawn a blank. Have also checked ancestry pre-1866 but nothing there either. Am awaiting to see if Tracy has trawled 1837 already. Liz x

I can't see anything on ancestry. Where have you looked already? Have you located them on any censuses? Liz x

That is a long timeframe to be looking - it will use up lots of credits to look quarter by quarter. Do you know if they had children? Liz x

Looking for the marriage details of Henry Tapper and Mary Jewell - possibly married in Devon (maybe stoke Damerel?)between 1850-1865