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Trishm

Trishm Report 10 Aug 2005 17:20

Dear Lesley many thanks for the information - I am sorry not to have responded before now - just been hit with a 24hr lurgy got up about an hour ago and felt guilty as I'd left you burning the midnight oil on Monday :( really sorry Anyway YOU ARE SO FANTASTIC :) I'd not been able to find anything on Richard Benn, now you've found him in Yorkshire in 1871 I can start looking for him around there. Also you have the right Christopher Benn. He was born Lowther but should have been at Grange over Sands for 1871 as his daughter was married at GOS in March 1871 and gave her address as Kents Bank. Now the interesting thing is that on the 1861 (I'd found this but not 1871) his wife is called Dorothy and he has a daughter Catherine. Dorothy was NOT the mother of the daughter married in 1871. You say that in 1891 his wife is Jane and he has a son and daughter Emily. so it seems that I've either read the 1861 census wrong or this confirms my thoughts that he was married 3 times. I'd really appreciate the information for 1891 for Christopher and co. Finally, very many thanks for the information on Robert Short - the details of the step-daughter are very interesting and I shall have to look for this McArr in the parish records. Again another strange thing as his marriage to Jane Hagans is recorded in 1870 just a few months after the death of his first wife, so how did he get a step-daughter with this surname? Unless of course Hagans was her married name and this child was born out of wedlock from her first marriage. Oh boy what fun to sort this puzzle. Anyway, once again many thanks for all your hard work. If you can let me have the folio details for 1891 then I can get a copy and start to try and unravel everything. very best wishes Trish :)

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 10 Aug 2005 17:18

GAYNOR Here are Births I found Name: William HEVER, Record Type: Births Quarter: December Year: 1859 District: Gravesend (1837-1941) County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 202 **************************** Name: James Fr_d_rick HEAVER Record Type: Births Quarter: December Year: 1861 District: Gravesend (1837-1941) County: Kent Volume: 2_ Page: 291 **************************** tThink this is George H. Name: Harry Heaver Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1867 District: Gravesend (1837-1941) County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 372 ***************************** Name: Louisa Annie Heaver, Record Type: Births Quarter: December Year: 1870 District: Gravesend (1837-1941) County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 383 ***************************** This Is Louisa's Marriage? Name: Ernest Morgan, OR Name: William Perkins, >>>Name: Louisa Annie Heaver, Record Type: Marriages Quarter: March Year: 1890 District: Gravesend (1837-1941) County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 614 **************************** Although I cant find Maud.M's Birth info this could be her Marriage? Name: Frederick James Blackman, OR Name: William Thomas Hayes, >>>Name: Maud Maria Heaver, Record Type: Marriages Quarter: September Year: 1888 District: Gravesend (1837-1941) County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 766 ***************************** Hope this helps Lesley :~)

Steven

Steven Report 10 Aug 2005 17:10

HI Lesley, Thanks for trying. I guess I will have to move on. Your patience is appreciated. Thanks Regards Steve

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 10 Aug 2005 17:01

STEVE This is all the Walkers living in Tottenham in 1901 Census. Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island ADDRESS: 2 Eagle Yard.High Road. Tottenham. Middlesex. James L Walker abt 1870 Islington, London, England Head Alice Walker abt 1870 Tottenham, Middlesex, England Wife James T Walker abt 1895 Tottenham, Middlesex, England Son Sidney H Walker abt 1900 Tottenham, Middlesex, England Son ****************************** ADDRESS: 2 Chestnut Grove.Tottenham.Middlesex. Mary A Walker abt 1841 Hoxton, London, England Head Alfred Walker abt 1869 Shoreditch, London, England Son Catherine Walker abt 1879 Tottenham, Middlesex, England Daughter Raphael Walker abt 1881 Tottenham, Middlesex, England Son ******************************************* ADDRESS:81 Chestnut Grove/Rd. Tottenham.Middlesex. Daniel Walker abt 1850 Poplar, London, England Boarder Daniel Is Boarding with a Coleman family Lesley :~0

Gaynor

Gaynor Report 10 Aug 2005 16:54

That'd be great Lesley, if you wouldn't mind. Many thanks, Gaynor x ps i'm logging off for a while now but i'll be back later.

Steven

Steven Report 10 Aug 2005 16:42

Hi Lesley, Bit of a very long shot but I'm still on the trail of Emma Walker. This was the address she gave when she got married in 1905. I say the address but it is quite hard to read, anyway just thought she might be there! As you know its very hard to find her. : - ( Regards Steve

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 10 Aug 2005 16:32

STEVE I can't do street Look ups...and Tottenham is Huge area so it would take ages to search through each page.. Have you got any idea of the name? Lesley :~)

Steven

Steven Report 10 Aug 2005 16:26

Hi Lesley me again, Sorry to be a pest but can you tell me who was living at No.7 Penrith Road ( Tottenham area I think ) when the 1901 Census was taken please. Regards Steve

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 10 Aug 2005 16:20

AHHHH Bless Thanxs Gaynor it makes it all worth while when I know how much the info is appreciated. Glad I can help put a few pieces of their family together. Do you want the births looked up? Lesley :~)

Gaynor

Gaynor Report 10 Aug 2005 16:16

Thankyou so much Lesley! Yesterday you made my Nan very happy with her Kent's and now my 82 year old Grandad will be over the moon when i tell him about all his Heavers!! Last week he didn't know much about his family other than his Grandad's name. Well, thanks to you he'll know a lot more now! I can't wait to tell Him!! Thanks again Lesley! You're a marvel, Gaynor.

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 10 Aug 2005 16:08

GAYNOR 1871 Spelt HEVER. ADDRESS:40 Peppercorn/ Peppercroft Street.Milton Kent Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship >>>William Hever abt 1834 Cobham, Kent, England Head OCC:Brewers Labourer Martha Hever abt 1836 Rainham, Essex, England Wife Sarah J Hever abt 1858 Milton, Kent, England Daughter William Hever abt 1860 Milton, Kent, England Son James F Hever abt 1862 Milton, Kent, England Son Mary A Hever abt 1864 Milton, Kent, England Daughter Maude M Hever abt 1866 Milton, Kent, England Daughter George H Hever abt 1868 Milton, Kent, England Son Louisa A Hever abt 1870 Milton, Kent, England Daughter Civil Parish or Township: Milton Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Kent Country: England Source information: RG10/891 Registration district: Gravesend Sub-registration district: Gravesend ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Folio: 60 Page: 60 ******************************** Sorry but I cant find their Marriage Lesley :~)

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 10 Aug 2005 16:00

GAYNOR 1861 for William Wife & Kids. ADDRESS:130 Wellington Street. Milton. Kent Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship >>>William Heaver abt 1834 Cobham, Kent, England Head OCC:Brewers Serv. Martha Heaver abt 1836 Rainham, Essex, England Wife Alice Heaver abt 1857 Cobham, Kent, England Daughter Sarah Heaver abt 1858 Gravesend, Kent, England Daughter William Heaver abt 1860 Gravesend, Kent, England Son Civil parish: Milton Ecclesiatical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Kent Country: England Source information: RG9/470 Registration district: Gravesend Sub-registration district: Gravesend ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Folio: 114 Page: 50 ****************************** I will be back in a Mo with 1871 Lesley :~)

Gaynor

Gaynor Report 10 Aug 2005 15:48

Thanks Lesley, thats excellent!! Yes it's very helpful. Can i ask you to have a look on 1871 for George's parent's. William Heaver b c1834 Cobham, Kent I don't know his mothers name though, as i can't seem to find a marriage for them? And I'm not sure if they were in Cobham or Gravesend at the time? Sorry to be so vague, Many thanks, Gaynor.

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 10 Aug 2005 15:38

GAYNOR Here is 1901 for George Heaver ADDRESS:40 Peppercroft StreetMilton Kent Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship >>>George Heaver abt 1868 Gravesend, Kent, England Head OCC:Scaffolder Builder Alice Heaver abt 1871 Gravesend, Kent, England Wife George Heaver abt 1890 Gravesend, Kent, England Son Minnie Heaver abt 1892 Gravesend, Kent, England Daughter Alice Heaver abt 1893 Gravesend, Kent, England Daughter William Heaver abt 1899 Gravesend, Kent, England Son Civil parish: Milton Ecclesiatical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Kent Country: England Source information: RG13/712 Registration district: Gravesend Sub-registration district: Gravesend ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Folio: 20 Page: 31 ******************************** This is george & Alice's Marriage info Name: Alice Louisa Hills, Name: George Heaver, Record Type: Marriages Quarter: December Year: 1889 District: Gravesend (1837-1941) County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 819 ******************************** Hope these help you gaynor Lesley :~)

Gaynor

Gaynor Report 10 Aug 2005 15:24

Hi, Lesley. Thanks for looking for my Busses. There seems to be a bit of a mystery with them i think?! Please could you have a look for a George Henry Heaver b 1867 Gravesend. His wife Alice b c1871 Northfleet. Some of their children may be with them; George, Minnie, Alice, & William all born Gravesend. Please could you try to find them on 1901 Gravesend. Many thanks, Gaynor.

Keeley

Keeley Report 10 Aug 2005 15:21

Thanks Lesley, I'm really struggling with this family too! but I'm still looking. Thank you for your help Keeley

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 10 Aug 2005 14:52

CHERYL I think this is Phillip in 1861 spelt PHILIP (1 L) in name... ADDRESS:No street name. Tetford Lincolnshire Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship >>>Philip Kemp abt 1821 Tetford, Lincolnshire, England Head OCC:Ag Lab Eliza Kemp abt 1824 Boston, Lincolnshire, England Wife John Kemp abt 1848 Tetford, Lincolnshire, England Son Edward Kemp abt 1853 Tetford, Lincolnshire, England Son Philip Kemp abt 1857 Tetford, Lincolnshire, England Son Joseph Kemp abt 1859 Tetford, Lincolnshire, England Son Civil parish: Tetford County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Source information: RG9/2369 Registration district: Horncastle Sub-registration district: Tetford ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Folio: 41 Page: 14 ********************************** 1871 without Philip on it. Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Eliza Kemp abt 1822 Boston, Lincolnshire, England Head. Widow Philip Kemp abt 1858 Tetford, Lincolnshire, England Son OCC:Ag Lab Joseph Kemp abt 1859 Tetford, Lincolnshire, England Son Alfred Kemp abt 1863 Tetford, Lincolnshire, England Son Charlotte Kemp abt 1864 Tetford, Lincolnshire, England Daughter John W Kemp abt 1869 Bradford, Yorkshire, England Grandson Civil Parish or Township: Tetford County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Source information: RG10/3383 Registration district: Horncastle Sub-registration district: Tetford ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Folio: 52 Page: 17 **************************** This Is Philip's Death info Name: Kemp, Philip Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 50 Quarter: March Year: 1871 District: Horncastle County: Lincolnshire Volume: 7a Page: 371 **************************** Hope these help you Lesley :~)

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 10 Aug 2005 14:13

RONALD Here you go this is Marriage info Name: Bailey, Martha Name: Stuart, Samuel Record Type: Marriages Quarter: December Year: 1902 District: Birmingham (1837-1924) County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 334 ******************************** This is Martha's Birth info Name: Martha Ann Bailey, Record Type: Births Quarter: September Year: 1876 District: West Bromwich County: Shropshire Staffordshire Worcestershire Volume: 6b Page: 883 West Bromwich Created 1st July 1837. Mainly in Staffordshire, but included parts of Shropshire and Worcestershire. Sub-districts : Handsworth; Oldbury; >>>WEDNESBURY<<<; West Bromwich North-East West Bromwich South-West. GRO volumes : XVII (1837-51); 6b (1852-1930). Handsworth (1837-1911), Perry Barr (1837-1928), Warley Woods (from 1928), Wednesbury, West Bromwich. Registers now divided between Sandwell and Birmingham districts ****************************************** This is Samuels Birth info Name: STUART, Samuel Record Type: Births Quarter: December Year: 1877 District: Birmingham (1837-1924) County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 116 ***************************************** Sorry cant find Death info for Samuel...Ancestry has very few after 1910 Lesley :~)

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 10 Aug 2005 14:07

GAYNOR I Still cant find any of them on 1901 Census??? Dont know where they are?? I have looked all over but they are nowhere to be found... Sorry Lesley :~(

Ron2

Ron2 Report 10 Aug 2005 14:01

Hi Lesley. I am seeking BMD info' as follows: Marriage data of Samuel Stuart b. 1877 Birmingham, Warwickshire and Martha Ann Bailey b. 1878 Wednesbury, Staffs. I believe year of marriage was 1902 as he was unmarried in 1901 and first child was born 1903. Date of Death for Samuel. He is buried in St Ann's Parish Church cemetery , Chasetown, Staffs. Possible year of death 1942. Any info' much appreciated. Regards Ron