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Trying to find info on Thomas Lewis born circa1850 Flintshire, Denbighshire area of North Wales or Cheshire and his wife Elizabeth (nee Davies) cant find a marriage for them, they had a son John David born Denbighshire 1876 but both of his parents were dead by the 1881 census, Story has it that john David went to live with two of his aunts cant find them on the census either they lived in wrexham.So if you have any of these names or places in your tree please get intouch

Any chance this is John jnr? Second name DAVIES and sister Jane ELIZABETH- with their grandfather in 1881 census? Bit coincidental to have the Elizabeth Davies names in both children's names? If their parents had died, then maybe they went to stay with their mother's family? Ann Jones could have been the "Aunt" you thought they went to?

Might be worth following up.
Good luck,
J.






Household Record 1881 British Census

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
John DAVIES Head W Male 58 Trefeglwis, Montgomery, Wales Farmer Of 68 Ac Emp 2 Serv

Ann Jane JONES Niece U Female 41 Llanfyllin, Montgomery, Wales Housekeeper

Jane Elizth. LEWIS Grandau Female 8 Myfod, Montgomery, Wales Scholar

John Davies LEWIS Granson Male 4 Wrexham, Denbigh, Wales

Helena Ann GRIFFITHS Ser U Female 16 Wrexham, Denbigh, Wales Domestic Servt

David SWANSON Ser U Male 28 Llandrinio, Montgomery, Wales Farm Servt (Indoor)


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Source Information:
Dwelling New Buildings
Census Place Deythur, Montgomery, Wales
Family History Library Film 1342321
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5497 / 32
Page Number 9

Hi Jayne
Many thanks for this have checked this one out already it is a possability, on john davids birth cert it says mother elizabeth lewis formerly davies and i seem to remember reading somewhere when they put formerly instead of nee they were married previously,
My father was shown by his grandfather John David the house he used to live in with his aunts and that was in wrexham Denbighshire and by the 1891 census he was working in Cefn Mawr Ruabon Denbs.
are you connected to the Lewis family.
john

The John Davies shown on the 1881 Census by Jayne has to be considered now almost a certainty for being the Father of your Elizabeth Davies.She is showing on the 1861 and 1871 Cesus as the daughter of the John Davies shown,and his Wife Jane.She is given as born in Meifod Montgomeryshire in c 1853.The Ann Jane Jones showing in 1881,is almost certainly the one shown in 1861 as a step-daughter of John Davies,showing that Elizabeth's Mother Jane had been married before.

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham..

There is a death of an Elizabeth Lewis in the October Quarter of 1876,in the Llanfyllin District of Montgomeryshire.Her Birthyear is given as 1853,and the GRO Reference is Volume 11b,Page 155.

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.

Hi William
Many thanks for the information my problem is my John David Lewis's birth cert says he was born at Old Llewyn onn Farm Abenbury Fawr Wrexham on 11 April 1876 parents: Thomas & Elizabeth( formerly Davies) Lewis unable to find either parents at this farm on the census before or after his birth, my father was shown by his grandfather ( J D Lewis) were he lived with his Aunties as both his parents died when he was very young dont even know if he was an only child as im unable to find a marriage for them, not even sure if his parents came from wrexham or if they died in wrexham only that they were both dead by 1881, and he disappears in the 1881 census and reappears in 1891 living at Cefn Kynaston, Cefn Mawr with William Roberts as a servant he always lived in the wrexham area and died in 1955 in Holt were he had lived for 40years. Do you know if Old Llewyn Onn farm is still there. Any help or advise is gratefully received.

Regards
Sandy Lewis formerly from Wrexham now London

Hi William
Have found a Thomas who died 1878 and an Elizabeth1880 who both died in Wrexham going to send for death certs could you tell me if you know what would be the nearest church/yard or cemetary to Abenbury, I know the main cemetary on the way out of Wrexham as all my grandparents on my maternal side are buried there but i remember reading somewhere that it didnt open until about 1880 so do you know where they would have been buried previously to that date.
Regards Sandy formerly from Wrexham now London

At last certificates have turned up and yes Thomas Lewis did die at Llwyn Onn farm in 1878 he was 29 years old and his occupation is farmer but there is no mention of a wife only a sister E Lewis as the informant, the certificate for an Elizabeth Lewis who died in 1880 in the wrexham area was a wife to George Lewis so now the plot thickens still cant find a marriage for Elizabeth Davies and Thomas Lewis in denbighshire area who would have married at the earliest 1868 and at the latest 1877.
Well i have now spent a 2 years off and on looking for Thomas Lewis the only thing i have found is a death notice in the Wrexham leader and Gazzette, have checked for a funeral, burial and a will in the local record offices @ ruthin and found nothing its now looking like he was buried out of the county, a soliciters in newtown montgomeryshire took over the dealings with regards to the farm, still cant find a marriage for them so now have to wait to check in the montgomery area which means a trip to powys records office i think.
Does anyone know if theres any thing free online for powys like the north wales free bmd if so please let me know.