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I wonder if you could help me I am trying to trace my grandfather Lloyd Edmund (or Edmond) Turner and thus his family line.
It is likely Lloyd Edmund Turner's family originally came from Wales and emigrated to the American South (maybe NC/SC?). My grandmother said they did and I took a DNA test and ran it against a US centric database (Turner DNA Project) and came up with 15 hits or matches – all Turners living in or having migrated from the American South.
It would appear that Lloyd and/or his family moved to California where he was living in the Los Angeles area in the early 1920's. (He is listed in the LA City Directory for 1923 – page 3069) but it is not possible to identify him on the 1920 census for California.
In 1923 his address is listed as 5760 Omaha Street, LA and he is listed as the householder. He is not listed in either the 1922 or 1924 directories. An address just down the street (5787) was given as Lloyd’s address on my father’s birth certificate as of Oct 1924.
Lloyd is also listed under the 1924 voter registrations for 5787 Omaha Street. I thought his living on Omaha Street might be something to follow-up on – and I had a very brief review of property records at the Vital Records office in Norwalk, CA – but without any success. Although 5787 Omaha Street still exists and records indicate it was built in 1922 - maybe Lloyd had a hand in building it?
On Lloyd’s voter registration he lists himself as a member of the Progressive Party – I wondered if there are any records of members of that party for 1923/24 in existence anywhere?
My great-grandparents (my grandmother’s parents) – Lewis John Geddes and Frances Mildred Geddes (both born and married in Canada) lived on the same street at that time (5579 Omaha – in the 1924 City Directory) and I presume they were neighbours and met. Although I did look in the year books at my grandmother’s High School (Hollywood) to see if Lloyd had gone to the same school as her – but no success I am afraid.
My grandmother (Eileen Geddes) told us Lloyd and she married at a friend’s house in the LA area in 1923 or 1924. Having looked in LA, Orange, Riverside and San Bernardino County records offices – I cannot find a record of the marriage.
It may well be of course that they were married in another county, not married or even that Lloyd was already married to someone else and they had an affair??? My grandmother was very secretive about Lloyd and we simply do not know what ‘skeletons’ may exist in the family.
My grandmother was very young when she married – she was born in January of 1906 and so we have assumed that Lloyd is likely to be born in the late 1890’s or early 1900’s – but have no proof of this. We cannot find a birth certificate for him in California – although there are one or two candidates from other parts of the US (including a 19 year old Lloyd Turner living in a boarding house in Charlotte, North Carolina from the 1920 US census).
So we are just guessing then that Lloyd was born late 1890's or very early 1900's.
From my father’s birth certificate it lists Lloyd as a building contractor and on the voter registration as a carpenter.
Lloyd reputedly died in a car accident (we assume - in the Los Angeles area in 1924 or maybe later) – but again we cannot find a death certificate for LA, Orange, Riverside ad San Bernardino Counties for those years or a little later). He may not have died then at all – this may have been a ‘convenient’ death – as my grandmother was pregnant with my father (he was born October 1924) when Lloyd allegedly died – but that is not sure – he may have lived longer than the mid 1920’s.
Any help you can give on tracking down Lloyd would be gratefully received.
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Have you checked the IGI?
IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 North America Search Results | Download Lloyd Edmund Turner Event(s): Birth: 1903 , Los Angeles, California Christening: Death: 1924 Burial: Marriages: Spouse: Eileen Gladys Geddes 1924 , Los Angeles, California
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