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I have got a copy of Richard Lee birth cert showing mother was Charlotte and father was Henry or Harry. birth date 13 may 1858 Willoughby in district of Spilsby. I have been unable to trace Charlotte & Harry/Henry back any further. Richard married Maria Tong in June 1885. If anyone can help would be greatly appreciated.

Hi Margaret, firstly here is Richard in 1881 and 1871. Charlotte is widowed by the 1871 census

1881 England Census
about Richard Lee
Name: Richard Lee
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Charlotte
Gender: Male
Where born: Willoughby, Lincoln, England

Civil Parish: Kingston-Upon-Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 24 Brigham Terrace
Occupation: 2nd Mate Merchant Service

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 49
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charlotte Lee 55
Richard Lee 23
Walter M. Lee 17

1871 England Census
about Richard Lee
Name: Richard Lee
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Charlotte
Gender: Male
Where born: Witaly, Lincolnshire, England (it should probably read Willoughy not Witaly)

Civil Parish: Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
Charlotte Lee 40
George O Lee 10
Richard Lee 12
Walter Lee 7

Well, I don't know about the father's name, but this surely looks like the same Charlotte, Richard and George:

1861 England Census
about Richard Lee
Name: Richard Lee
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Richard
Mother's Name: Charlotte
Gender: Male
Where born: Boothby, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: Binbrook
Town: Binbrook
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Registration district: Louth
Sub-registration district: Binbrook
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 168
Household Members:
Name Age

Charlotte Lee 32
George Lee 6 Mo
Richard Lee 31
Richard Lee 2

... and it seems that Ancestry, for the 1861 census, have mistranscribed Richard (aged 2) and his mother's place of birth, which should be Sloothby, a village just outside Willoughby and close to Spilsby.

thanks, my problem is that on Richards birth cert it states Henry/harry (hard to read) as his father and charlotte as his mother. I have found the same info as you guys as well and am confused as to why fathers name changes??? is it the same family or a different one. everything else seems to match but the fathers name. unless henry/harry died before 1861 census and charlotte remarried???

There is a Henry Lee born in Toynton on the 1851 census in the same family as the Richard Lee with Charlotte on the 1861 census.
(Added 11/9/07 - I mean I am assuming so, since both claim to be born in Toynton, and there are very few named either Richard or Henry Lee of the right age in this area of Linc).
There is also a marriage between Henry Lee and Charlotte Fawcett in the Horncastle district in the Oct-Dec q'r 1853. Between Jul 1858 and Mar 1860 there were deaths of a Henry Lee registered in Holbeach, Stamford and Caistor, so your theory certainly looks possible.

What is Henry/Harrys occupation from his sons birth cert or marriage cert?


Margaret

Hi Margaret,

Sorry, had gone away from computer for a while.

I'd been looking at a family Richard and Elizabeth Lee who are at Bilsby in 1841 (Henry aged 9 and Richard aged 5), and then the same family at Wrangle in 1851 (no Richard, but Henry is there aged 18).

The father is a wheelwright in 1841, and a journeyman carpenter in 1851. Henry is an Ag Lab in 1851.

I'm not tracing the family myself, and do not hold any certificates, sorry.

Hi Ivy.
Sorry for this confusion. Since Genes has stopped adding surnames.

Im not the Margaret who owns the thread but the other one asking the thread owner Margaret what the fathers occupation is from the birth cert she has..


Regards the other Margaret

thanks to all of you. this is great and of much help. on his birth cert it didn't give a occupation but on richards marriage cert (1885) it gives henry/harry occupation as joiner and shows him as deceased. looking at birth cert Charlottes maiden name was Fawcett so you guys def on right track. once again thanks.all info really appreciated as I live in new zealand.

Glad you've got further back! (waves to both Margarets and Lew for finding the link back to Willoughby)