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George

George Report 28 Nov 2007 15:05

I’ve lost my maternal Grandmother’s parents.

From my grandmother’s marriage certificate (08/02/1907 Liverpool) she was:

Henrietta Elizabeth Wilson, a spinster aged 25.

Her Father was Robert Wilson, deceased, a mariner

Her married sister, Lucy, was a witness

From Lucy’s wedding lines (19/09/1902 Liverpool)

Her Father was alive and a mariner.

Lucy was 19

There was a witness Jane Wilson. (Sister/Mother? – no other info)

There are two likely deaths for Robert (FreeBMD) in Liverpool which suggest that he was probably born between 1847 and 1855

The rough d.o.b.’s for the sisters suggests parents married 1878 +/- 5

There is nothing obvious on 1881, 1891, 1901 for a married family; but there again he was a mariner.

My Grandfather’s line, Chapple, presents no problems.

Any suggestions would be most welcome

Pam

Pam Report 28 Nov 2007 15:47

A possibility ?

1881 England Census
about Henrietta Wilson
Name: Henrietta Wilson
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Jane Ellen
Gender: Female
Where born: Lpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Everton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 24 Buckingham St
Education:

Employment status:

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Neighbors:
Household Members: Name Age

Anabella Jane Wilson 4
Henrietta Wilson 2
Jane Ellen Wilson 31 Laundress born Liverpool
Louis Wm. Wilson 9
Robert Alfred Wilson 6




Researching:
Middlesex, Berkshire and Somerset

Moggie

Moggie Report 28 Nov 2007 15:50

Hi George
Have you tried to find the address from the 1902 marriage cert in the 1901 census?
Maureen

Heather

Heather Report 28 Nov 2007 15:57

I expect you have discounted this one - but mum is shown married though no dad there - plus the boy with the name Robert and mum being Jane??

1881

Name: Henrietta Wilson


Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Jane Ellen
Gender: Female
Where born: Lpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Everton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 24 Buckingham St
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Anabella Jane Wilson 4
Henrietta Wilson 2
Jane Ellen Wilson 31
Louis Wm. Wilson 9
Robert Alfred Wilson 6

Heather

Heather Report 28 Nov 2007 16:04

No forget that, they turn up in 1901 and Robert is at home and a coffee stall holder

Name: Ellen Jane Wilson
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Manchester Oldham Road St Peter
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 151
Household Members: Name Age
Cecelia Wilson 12
Ellen Jane Wilson 48
Joseph Wilson 17
Robert Wilson 49
Robert John Wilson 15

Heather

Heather Report 28 Nov 2007 16:06

I suppose this is Lucy boarding in 1901:
Lucy Wilson
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Benedict
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: South Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 47
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Gragg 35
Mary Gragg 67
Lucy Wilson 19


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Heather

Heather Report 28 Nov 2007 16:12

Theres something odd going on isnt there? You say Lucy's marriage cert doesnt mention dad being deceased but I guess that often happened anyway - its just this one is niggling me:

1891 - Lucy is shown as "adopted daughter" born Liverpool

Charlotte Gregg 56
David Gregg 28
Dorathy Gregg 18
Edward Gregg 26
Elizabeth Gregg 18
Matilda Gregg 23
Lucy E R Wilson 9

George

George Report 28 Nov 2007 16:17

Thanks everybody. I think you have cracked enough for me to now make some real progress. A lot of my rellies will be made up. This has been a brick wall since the mid 1980's.
Sorry about the dalay in answering but an urgent phone call - "It's raining and will you please pick me up?"- meant I had to go out.
Thanks again
George