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ELIZABETH TURNER - BIRTH CONUNDRUM

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Julia

Julia Report 31 Oct 2010 14:09

I will try and keep this simple, to avoid confussion, but will have to give you some detail.
I have found the children of my 4 x Gt. Grandparents, and am satisfied with what I have.
However, a distant relly recently sent me details of this generation, and in the spirit of things taught to us on here, have veryfied for myself what was given to me. But, this person had three siblings, I had not, that to be quite honest, must have died, because of the dates and further siblings births.
Here comes the but. There was a daughter listed, Elizabeth Turner, which I do not have. Also, in the father's will, dated 1834, one of his bequests was ..... and to my FOUR daughters. The other three I have full records for.
So, I have birth date for Elizabeth Turner of 1799, and the parents are Thomas Turner married to Rebecca Parker. The baptism would have come under St. John's Baptist, Peterborough, but may actually have occured in any of the surrounding villages of this dioces, eg. Eye,Dogsthorpe,Paston.
I have looked on search trees, and the IGI, aswell as Pilot, to no avail. She was obviously alive in 1834, when the will was made.
Many,many thanks
Julia in Derbyshire

Edit. For some obscure reason, I also have the name Margaret, in the back of my mind. The parents were married in 1791, and the last child was born in 1815.

Abby

Abby Report 31 Oct 2010 14:18

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Name: Elisabeth Turner
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 03 Oct 1803
Baptism/Christening Place: HOUGHTON REGIS,BEDFORD,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Thomas Turner
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Rebecca
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03553-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 826545
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Julia

Julia Report 31 Oct 2010 14:27

Thanks safc, but I think the names are purely a coincidence. The birth would definitely have been in the area I mentioned, as they were farmers, and obviously tied to the land. I think all they managed to produce were crops and children. LOL
Many thanks
Julia in Derbyshire

Julia

Julia Report 1 Nov 2010 10:27

Good Morning to Everyone.

Would a very kind person, have a look at this for me please.
Many,many thanks in Anticipation

Julia in Derbyshire

Gemma

Gemma Report 1 Nov 2010 10:32

Hi Julia, am I right in thinking that you actually have a copy of the full will and the children are not refered to by name at all? also could you tell me the names and dates of the 3 daughters you do have? thanks. xx

Julia

Julia Report 1 Nov 2010 10:46

Hello Gemma, yes I have a copy of the will, and it distinctly refers to ....my Four daughters......, but does not name them. That would be too easy, wouldn't it. The daughters I do have are Mary 1807, Susanna 1811, and Rebecca 1815. Susanna did marry to a Mr Baker and had a daughter, but Mary and Rebecca stayed at home with mother Rebecca. In the 1881, Mary and Rebecca are living together in Peterborough, mother deceased, and with the daughter of Susanna, a Mary Jane Baker.
Many,many thanks

Gemma

Gemma Report 1 Nov 2010 11:39

Well i cant find an elizabeth. Have got 2 sons. George bapt 13/10/1809 from igi and Thomas on 41 census says aged 20 but rebecca jr says 20 too so his birth could be anywhere around 1815- 1820 ish (havnt found a baptism for him) perhaps its worth asking the person what source they used for the information. If they have viewed the origional registers that might explain it or if they had a marriage for an Elizabeth that says her father is thomas in Peterborough they might have matched it to the nearest one? Unless somebody else can find it. Sorry. xx

Julia

Julia Report 1 Nov 2010 11:46

Hello Gemma. Yes, George and Thomas are two of the sons, who with the rest of the brothers, I have found their marriages and their families. The birth date I had for Thomas was 1795, but I have seen it as 1799. George's birth date it the same as you have found. Rebecca jn. is definitely 1815. The person I had some of the info. from, I no longer have contact with, but I know he did his research 'before computors were invented', and looked at actual records. He is married to a a direct descendant of a later generation.
Many Thanks
Julia in Derbyshire

Gemma

Gemma Report 1 Nov 2010 11:54

Chances are then it's sitting in Northants in the registers. When somebody tells me something that I cant verify myself straight away such as taking a trip to a records office I would have to look at the balance of probibility. If they married in1791 (i found it 25th October) it would be very strange not to have any children until 1807. If all of his other research is sound and been done well I would take that trip to check the registers. If his information is a bit sketchy perhaps hold off until something else comes to light. :) sorry I couldn't be more help. xx

Julia

Julia Report 1 Nov 2010 11:58

Many Thanks Gemma. Yes I understand what you mean about marrying in 1971, and subsequent births. In actual fact, their first child Daniel was born in 1792.
Again, many,many thanks
Julia in Derbyshire