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Can anyone help or suggest something else to try. I am trying to find a marriage certificate for a William Walker and Mary Hearty nee Ostler. Mary was a widow with a young son born in 1893 when Mary was 21 the same year her husband died. She came from Whitburn West Lothian and William of Armadale, He stayed in South Steet, Armadale in 1944 when Mary died and also when his son William married in 1927. He died in 1963 aged 87. But we want to find his parents but can get anywhere. Someone in the family said he had another surname of Reid and he visited Edinburgh a lot and then seemed to come back with money. We don;t know if he is maybe illigitimate. Anyone help please.

Do you have an approx time when they married? -- e.g., were they together on the 1901?

With the info you've given, I can't find them in 1901. Do you have the name of the son born 1893?


1881

Name: Mary Ostler
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Where born: Whitburn, Linlithgowshire
Civil Parish: Whitburn


1891

Name: Mary Hearty
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Thomas
Where born: Whitburn, Linlithgowshire
Civil Parish: Whitburn

There are two marriages for the name Mary Hearty between 1893 and 1908.

Have you looked at them, at ScotlandsPeople?

Neither seems to be to a Reid, a William or a Walker.

Mary Hearty and son Thomas (by any surname) seem to have disappeared from the 1901 census.

And no trace of a William Walker born in Armadale.


Please do delete your duplicate thread about the same person.

Sometimes, someone just can't be found, and more threads aren't going to find them!

Since you know when and where William Walker died, have you looked for his death record at ScotlandsPeople?

I searched for William Walker died 1963, Armadale, and there is one match. I have no active credits left to check it.

Ordinarily the death record would show parents' names, but if the person reporting the death didn't know that information, I assume it would not be there. But have you looked?

Thanks for your help and I have been on Scotlands people as thats were I normally search. I only have one for Mary Heartly marriage and will try again. Sorry about the other thead, just being new to the Searching part of this I thought I may have made the first one sound confusing.

Yes I have looked but it is not permissable to view and has to be ordered. I dont want to order it incase its not the right one. Thre is also plent of William Walkers born in 1875/76 in West Lothian but because I don't know parents I am stuck. Thats why I was hoping to find the marriage between Mary Hearty nee Ostler and him so that It may give his parents. I can only fnd their sons marriage registration, but thats of no use.

We all have to take a flyer occasionally -- order a certificate and cross our fingers!

If you *know* he died in 1963, then the record of a William Walker who died in Armadale in 1963 would not seem to be too risky a choice?

If info may be available that way, it makes way more sense to go for it than to cast around blindly, which is about all it seems can be done at this point.

Might be what you're left with even after getting the certificate, but it's gotta be got to know that.

I suspect there was no marriage, although he may have had a previous marriage ... under a different name ...

These great-grandfathers are sent to try us. I have one too (name change, tall tales), and I've seen two or three others here in the last few days alone!