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Trying to find information on my Great-Nans first husband.
Name-Johnny Walker
DOB-around 1888
Death-He hung himself in 1918.
Wife-Lucy
Children-Norman, Vera and Neville.
I really want to know about his parents and his brothers and sisters(or if he had any). I also want to know whether he had any children before he met Lucy.
Thanks,
Holly.

Can you give a location please?

Not quite sure maybe around Shropshire???
Holly.

Hi Holly,

What was your Nans full name????


Dee x

Lucy Jones.

Hi Holly,


Could this be their marriage???????

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1916 (>99%)
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Gibbons Francis Williams W. Derby 8b 843
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jones Lucy Walker W.Derby 8b 843
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Walker John J Jones W.Derby 8b 843
Williams Frances E Gibbons W.Derby 8b 843




W Derby is Lancashire, where were the children born??????


Dee x

Nevilles birth;

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Neville Walker
Name: Neville Walker
Mother's Maiden Surname: Jones
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1919
Registration district: Clun
Registration county: Gloucestershire, Shropshire, Herefordshire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 748



Is this the Shropshire link???


Dee x

Im not sure because their first child(Norman) was born in May 1916.

Vera's birth?????

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Vera Walker
Name: Vera Walker
Mother's Maiden Surname: Jones
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1918
Registration district: W Derby
Registration county: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8b
Page Number: 930

Holly............ who was the child born in 1916???


Thanks Holly

Norman

Ok........... so could Norman have been born prior to their marriage, remember this is the time of WW1 and John could have been away, then came back to marry Lucy????????


England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Norman Jones
Name: Norman Jones
Mother's Maiden Surname: Jones
Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1916
Registration district: W Derby
Registration county: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8b
Page Number: 937



I'll check WW1 records for John.


Dee x

Sorry Holly, I'm going to bombard you with questions, just trying to find them for you.


How do you know John died in 1918, where does the estimate of the birth year come from?

Did your G Nan Lucy marry again?

Where does the Shropshire part come into play, his birth, his death?


The more we know............. hopefully will lead to the more we can find.


Dee x

I know he died in 1918 because he died when Lucy was pregnant with their 3rd child Neville, who was born in December of that year.
Yes, Lucy married again to a John(Jack) Nicholls and then they had my nan in 1925.
Well, i think it happened in Shropshire because Lucy was born and died there and my Nan was born there.
Thanks.
Holly.

Hi Holly,

Was your Nan Beryl???


Dee x

yep...???

Ok......... So your Nan was born in the district of Clun aswell.

If you know Lucy's fathers name I would consider ordering the marriage certificate which I found earlier........ I have a strong feeling that it could be correct.

Vera's birth would tie in and a birth for Norman in the same district prior to their marriage would also tie in................ this would be the only definate way to find any information on John, the marriage cert would give you his age and occupation. It will also give his fathers name and occupation....... this will help you to search for his siblings.

You might even find him on the WW1 records (unfortunately there are sooooooo many John Walkers that it would take ages to search the WW1 records with out further info....... I did try!!)



Did your nan have a brother Graham?? 'cos there is a birth in Clun for Graham J a few years later than your Nans.


Dee xx

she had a brother called Graham who was known as John.
So i need to get a marriage certificate for lucy and John then??
How did you know my nan was called Beryl??
Thanks.
Holly.

Holly,

there is a free site called FREEBMD.

If you go onto that and just put her name and year of birth in it will come up.

Just using the Surname and mothers maiden name and the district CLUN...... shows the birth of Graham.

You can order cerificates on-line at The General Register, costs £7.00, will take about 1 week to arrive. On the previous page of this thread will be all the details for the ordering; District West Derby, Year 1916, Quarter Dec, Volume number 8b and Page number 843.

Make sure you tick the box stating that you know the area/district or they will charge you more.



Dee xx