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Agnes Bertha Walker

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Kathryn

Kathryn Report 31 May 2010 22:09

Agnes was born 1842 in Lasswade Scotland to Elizabeth Mein and David Walker. I can't find any of them on a census. I know she married in 1865 in New Zealand but also can't find her arriving in NZ. Any one with ideas on where to look would be great.
Thanks.

Flick

Flick Report 31 May 2010 22:19

This is the only one born in approx year in Midlothian

1851

Name: Agnes Walker
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relationship: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Edinburgh
Parish Number: 685/1
Civil parish: Edinburgh Old Greyfriars
County: Midlothian
Address: 27 Cowgate
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 8
Page: 1 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 1
Line: 5
Roll: CSSCT1851_177
Household Members: Name Age
John Weir 45
Helen Weir 43
Helen Weir 17
John Weir 4
Agnes Walker 10


Flick

Flick Report 31 May 2010 22:24

DAVID WALKER

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Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH MEIN
Marriage: 25 JUN 1841 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland


M119899

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 31 May 2010 22:34

Thanks,
I saw that census but can't find a death for David or Elizabeth that would mean that she had to go and live with her Aunt and Uncle.
Thanks for your help.

Aileen

Aileen Report 31 May 2010 23:47

If they died before 1855 there probably wont be a record

Aileen

Aileen Report 31 May 2010 23:50

Death for Elizabeth Walker ms Mein

1902 MEIN ELIZABETH WALKER F 80 KELVIN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK

Elizabeth Walker ...widow of David Walker (Mason) died May 17th 1902 at 194 Dumbarton Road Glasgow aged 80.....daughter of William (Skinner) and Agnes Mein ms Law

The details given were not given by a family member and therefore may not be totally acurate

Aileen

Aileen Report 1 Jun 2010 00:15

Record of Agnes ' birth gives her born in Edinburgh

05/06/1842 WALKER AGNES DAVID WALKER/ELIZABETH MEIN FR2515 F ST CUTHBERT'S EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 1 Jun 2010 01:09

Aileen,
Thank you so much for your help.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Jun 2010 01:23

I looked for Elizabeth Walker b. ca 1822 +/- 5, Scotland .... and it produced this one.


Unfortunately you can't look at the actual census on ancestry!


1841 Census

Name: Elizabeth Walker
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1820
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: Edinburgh St Luke
County: Midlothian
Address: Queen Street No 65
Occupation: F S
Parish Number: 685/1
Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members:
Name Age

Robert Hogue 48
Helen Hogue 36
Margaret Hogue 13
Jemima Hogue 12
James Hogue 10
David Hogue 8
Elizabeth Hogue 6
Helen Hogue 4
Alison Hogue 2
Robina Hogue 1 Mo
Margaret Wilson 30
Elizabeth Wilson 13
Jane Lumsden 30
>>>>Catharine Mein 27
>>>>Elizabeth Walker 21
Lilly Henderson 15



could Catherine be her sister??????????????????




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Jun 2010 02:02

from the I G I on familysearch.org

ELIZABETH MEIN Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 25 MAR 1817 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: WILLIAM MEIN Family
Mother: AGNES BARCLAY

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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C119877 1817 - 1819 1066756, 0103059 Film 6901046 Film



ELIZABETH MEIN Pedigree
Female Family


Parents:
Father: WILLIAM MEIN Family

Marriages:
Spouse: DAVID WALKER Family
Marriage: 25 JUN 1841 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M119899 1838 - 1841 1066765 Film 6900813 Film



possible siblings (I'm trying to see if that Catherine on the 1841 Census could be a sibling!)


All parents are William Mein and Agnes Barclay


MATILDA MEIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 18 JUL 1822 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

ROBERT MEIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 23 MAY 1828 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

ELIZABETH MEIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 25 MAR 1817 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

JEAN MEIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 14 JUL 1814 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

AGNES MEIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 12 MAR 1825 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

ANNE MEIN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 05 MAR 1811 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland



no Catherine!!


cousin maybe????

CATHERINE MEIN Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 11 JUN 1809 South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland

Parents:
Father: GEORGE MEIN Family
Mother: CATHRINE ERSKINE

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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C195038 1805 - 1819 1067772, 1067779 Film 6901040 Film




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Jun 2010 02:03

I'm actually wondering if Agnes was living with the Weirs in 1851 because her parents were away, or Elizabeth was having another child.




sylvia

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 1 Jun 2010 03:34

Sylvia ,
Thanks for your help. I hadn't even thought about them being away.
Thanks again.
kath

Gael

Gael Report 1 Jun 2010 07:28

Where about in New Zealand did they go?

try looking under Denise & Peter's Home Page comprehensive site or NZ Bound http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzbound/lists.htm
Gael

Aileen

Aileen Report 1 Jun 2010 10:19

The 1841 census that Sylvia found was take shortly before (06/06/1841) Elizabeth Mein married David Walker so unless the marriage date is wrong or Elizabeth called herself Walker before she married it not the one we are looking for

Aileen

Aileen Report 1 Jun 2010 10:32

? Possible for 1841 census

Name: Elizabeth Mein
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Gender: Female
Where born: Midlothian, Scotland

Civil parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts
County: Midlothian
Address: Gergie Mills
Parish Number: 685/2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Willm Mein 50............Occ is given as Skinner
Jean Mein 25
Elizabeth Mein 20
Martha Mein 15
Robert Mein 13
Willm Mein 17

The other children's names would more or less tie in with Sylvia's suggestion that Agnes Barclay was the mothers name and not Agnes Law

Aileen

Aileen Report 1 Jun 2010 10:48

? Possible for 1861 census

Name: Elizabeth Walker
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Gorgie, Edinburgh
Registration Number: 693
Registration district: Liberton
Civil parish: Liberton
County: Midlothian
Address: Five Houses
Occupation: Ag Labourer
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 45
Line: 4
Roll: CSSCT1861_132
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Walker 39
David Walker 13
Margaret Walter 6

Aileen

Aileen Report 1 Jun 2010 11:02

I have found Elizabeth on 1871 and 1881 census too but haven't copied them here as she doesn't appear to be with family members.
1901 census suggests that the part she is on is not the whole return.....

Name: Elizabeth Walker
Age: 85
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Relationship: Mother
Gender: Female
Where born: Midlothian
Registration Number: 644/9
Registration district: Kelvin
Civil parish: Glasgow Sandyford
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 194 Dumbart Rd
Occupation: Annuitant
ED: 21
Household schedule number: 80
Line: 17
Roll: CSSCT1901_298
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Walker 85

Aileen

Aileen Report 1 Jun 2010 11:07

This is the other part of the 1901 census

Name: Margaret Edgar
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relationship: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Midlothian
Registration Number: 644/9
Registration district: Kelvin
Civil parish: Glasgow Sandyford
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 194 Dumbart Rd
Occupation: Housewife
ED: 21
Household schedule number: 80
Line: 11
Roll: CSSCT1901_298
Household Members:
Name Age
Margaret Edgar 42
Jeann Edgar 14
Thomas Edgar 12
Alexander Edgar 10
Margaret Edgar 7
Peter Edgar 35

Aileen

Aileen Report 1 Jun 2010 11:10

Elizabeth's death cert was signed by Peter Edgar who appears to have been her daughter Margaret's brother-in-law.

I haven't found a death for David Walker but a reasonable assumption would be that he died before statutory records began in 1855

Kathryn

Kathryn Report 1 Jun 2010 23:48

Gael,
Thanks I will try the sites. Agnes ended up in Blenhiem where she married a Thomas Warner in 1865. I know she could have come in
at several ports and even come over from Australia. Her age means that it is unlikely she was a convict as they stoped arriving in Aus after 1840s.
kath.