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yellowpenguin56

yellowpenguin56 Report 10 Mar 2009 22:59

Hi
I am completely stuck at the beginning of my tree on my Mums side.My mums grandfather was a Richard Henry Ward (as seen on my Mums mums birth certificate). On my mums mums wedding certificate he is listed as Harry Ward. I cant seem to make any sense of it at all. What complicates things is that Richards wife Eith Maud had been married prior to a Sullivan. I can find no record of Richards birth,marriage or death and have no idea to his exact date of birth. Am i on a losing wicket?.

Lewella

Lewella Report 10 Mar 2009 23:00

Do you have any dates to go on, Paula? Eg, your mother's birth date, parents' wedding?

yellowpenguin56

yellowpenguin56 Report 10 Mar 2009 23:05

My mums mum( Kathleen) was born in 1918 in St Pancras, and she was then married in 1935 and became Luckock. On the marriage certificate it states her father as Harry Ward a builders labourer ( deceased)

JenW

JenW Report 10 Mar 2009 23:07

Would this be your mum's birth?

Births Jun 1918 (>99%)
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Ward Kathleen H Harvey Pancras 1b 53

JenW

JenW Report 10 Mar 2009 23:09

This would be why you can't find the marriage.

Marriages Sep 1916 (>99%)
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Sullivan Maud E Ward Pancras 1b 38
Ward Henry R Sullivan Pancras 1b 38

JenW

JenW Report 10 Mar 2009 23:10

Marriages Mar 1915 (>99%)
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Harvey Edith M Sullivan Pancras 1b 223
Sullivan Daniel Harvey Pancras 1b 223

Lewella

Lewella Report 10 Mar 2009 23:10

Okay, so is this your mother's birth registration?


England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Kathleen H Ward
Name: Kathleen H Ward
Mother's Maiden Surname: Harvey
Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1918
Registration district: Pancras
Registration county: Greater London
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 53

yellowpenguin56

yellowpenguin56 Report 10 Mar 2009 23:12

Hi
How did you do that and how do I go into that to get same info? you are a massive star. Thanks 50 million times over.

JenW

JenW Report 10 Mar 2009 23:13

possible

Births Mar 1883 (>99%)
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Ward Richard Henry Pancras 1b 206


Lewella

Lewella Report 10 Mar 2009 23:13


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Edith M Harvey
Name: Edith M Harvey
Year of Registration: 1915
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's Surname: Sullivan, Daniel
District: St Pancras (1902-1977)
County: Greater London, London
Volume: 1b
Page: 223

JenW

JenW Report 10 Mar 2009 23:13

paula, use www.freebmd.org.uk to search. i just put in the surnames and came up with a marriage.

yellowpenguin56

yellowpenguin56 Report 13 Mar 2009 12:58

Recieved marriage cert of henry richard ward to maud edith sullivan( nee.Harvey) aug 13th 1916. Please can anyone tell me how to proceed. I am trying to go back on both sides but just keep hitting the wall. Henry Richard Wards father was a Harry Ward a builder and Maud Ediths father is Thomas a painter. My problem is that I am not sure if the forenames are changed around with both of them. What i want is to obtain birth details for Richard and Edith and dont know how to progress.

yellowpenguin56

yellowpenguin56 Report 13 Mar 2009 14:23

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Potty

Potty Report 13 Mar 2009 14:38

Paula, what were their ages on the marriage cert? Have you tried to find them on the 1911 census?

yellowpenguin56

yellowpenguin56 Report 13 Mar 2009 14:49

Hi yes i have tied 1911 census. Richard was 41 and Maud 30. It turns up so many possibles and I am sooooo stuck.

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 13 Mar 2009 14:57

Just in case anyone gets hooked on looking at this family:
1901 Ancestry
Name: Harry Ward
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann E
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: New Hincksey, Berkshire, England
Civil Parish: Oxford St Aldate
Ecclesiastical parish: North Hinksey St Lawrence
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England
Occupation:Builder
Registration district: Oxford
Sub registration district: Oxford
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 223
Household Members:
Name Age
Harry Ward 40
Ann E Ward 41
Martha Ward 65
Harry R Ward 12
Lilian O Ward 9
Aubrey Ward 7
Diana A Ward 5
Violet Ward 3
Hubert Ward 1

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1384; Folio: 57; Page: 34.

The son is Harry Rowland WARD,so probably not.

Maureen

straydog

straydog Report 13 Mar 2009 16:05

try www.wardjc.com.au might be usefull

yellowpenguin56

yellowpenguin56 Report 13 Mar 2009 16:18

Hi Straydog

I tried that link but it would not bring a webpage up. ? have I done something wrong.

Many Thanks Paula

straydog

straydog Report 13 Mar 2009 16:33

hi paula couldbe my fault try this wardjc.com click on home page then click on surnames

Lewella

Lewella Report 13 Mar 2009 21:32

Have you purchased some credits for the 1911 census and found out where Henry Richard and Maud were born? I think you're going to have to do this